dear diana:
i hope you have a fast and uneventful journey. i will be gone too.
hopefully, we can continue our dialogue when the lila squad starts again in
january.
bon voyage!
lithien
~*~all paths lead to the inevitable conclusion that logic fails
miserably when confronted with the mystery of existence~*~
http://members.tripod.com/~lithien/Lila2.html
-----Original Message-----
From: diana@hongkong.com <diana@hongkong.com>
To: moq_discuss@moq.org <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 10:01 PM
Subject: MD Reopening the Lila Squad
>Dear all
>
>For those of you who were not members of the old Lila Squad I've copied
>the newsletters sent out to the group during its year long existence at
>the bottom of this post. After the last Lila Squad post I closed the
>group and along with Horse opened the unmoderated moq_discuss which is
>where we are now.
>
>Part of the resaon for closing the Lila Squad was because it was run on
>my 28.8 dial up connection which is dodgy at the best of times. It
>really did take a long time to check all those posts every night. But
>mainly it was because, in spite of being moderated, perhaps 90% of posts
>were irrelevant and that was far too many to cut. I didn't mind
>_spending_ time on it, but there's a difference between spending time
>and wasting time.
>
>I believe the problem was that the Lila Squad was the only Pirsig
>mailing list on the net and so it was expected to be all things to
>everyone. There was (and is now on moq_discuss) a group who want things
>to be slower, more thoughtful and mature but they were (and are)
>outnumbered. However, when you are the only shop in town you have to be
>a general store whether you like it or not, thus the boutique-style Lila
>Squad was closed and the moq_discuss supermarket was opened.
>
>After some discussion with the old Lila Squad committee (Horse, Keith,
>Magnus, Bodvar and me) we've decided that rather than try and moderate
>moq_discuss we should leave it as an open forum (to keep the masses
>happy) and reopen the Lila Squad as a closed forum for those who want a
>more structured dialog. Having two lists - one moderated and one
>unmoderated should keep everyone happy.
>
>We are still figuring out the details but basically it will be a
>continuation of the old Lila Squad although this time it will be on
>Horse's server and a lot faster. To ease the burden on any one
>individual we have decided that we shall take turns at moderating the
>list (other LS members can also volunteer to do this). We will probably
>structure the dialog around PROGRAMs and we will limit posts to one a
>day with all posts being transferred at once. We are also thinking of
>insisting that members must post at least one message every two weeks in
>order to remain on the list - this might sound strange but commitment to
>a group doesn't just mean not abusing it, you must also actively support
>it.
>
>Your comments on this are appreciated but please bear in mind that the
>Lila Squad is supposed to be a list for thinkers not for socializers. If
>that isn't your idea of fun, don't join.
>
>I will leave for the UK tonight and will be back in Hong Kong on January
>2. I hope we can get the Lila Squad relaunched around the beginning of
>January. Horse is going to work on a charter for moq_discuss so that we
>can clarify the differences between the two lists. I will post
>instructions and more details here and to the website as soon as we have
>finalized them.
>
>
>Hope you all have a great Christmas!
>
>Diana
>
>
>
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>Lila Squad Newsletters 18 August 1997 - 7 August 1998
>
>
>7 August 1998
>
> As you may have gathered from some posts last week I
> haven't been moderating the LS very efficiently recently. In
> fact the whole process has become so time consuming and,
> dare I say it, thankless, that I've pretty much given up
> altogether and I might as well make it official. Apologies to
> those who have supported this method but it just isn't
> practical any more. I hope we can stick to the PROGRAMs
> and maintain a focussed discussion, but the Lila Squad will no
> longer be moderated. We will also be moving to another
> server shortly which will transfer all posts instantly, but more
> about that when it's ready.
>
> Donny has submitted a new essay to the forum on the subject
> of Can logic be institutionalized? He looks at the role of
> philosophy, institutions, reason and education and it's well
> worth checking out.
>
> We have a rather colorful bunch of new subscribers, bios are
> on the squad page. Newbies, please join in as soon as you
> want. Oldbies, please be gentle with them;-)
>
>
>
> 1 August 1998
>
> Well time out for the Dynamic-static split I guess. If you
> want to make a final stand on it send something before
> Monday and I'll put it through. As I said before it would be
> nice to have some essay-answers to this debate (and the
> SOM debate) for latching purposes. Nobody's actually sent
> one yet though I understand that a few members are working
> on them. Please send these directly to me and I'll put them on
> the forum.
>
> If you want to continue on the D/S split please post to
> sci.philosophy.meta. It might also be worth dropping a note
> to the person you're replying to just to let them know you've
> put an answer there.
>
> Our next debate is on the four levels and I'll send out a
> program post for that shortly. And another reminder to look
> at Maggie and Glove's pages which both deal with the levels.
> Unfortunately Maggie's URL was incorrect in the last
> newsletter, but this one is definitely right! And don't forget
> Mark Lencho's Who are you and what should you do, for a
> rough guide to the static levels and their moral implications.
>
> We've had a lot of new subscribers in the past two weeks but
> we've yet to hear from most of them. I know it's difficult to
> join in a conversation that seems to have been going on for
> months. However with the new topic -- the four levels -- we
> will be starting from scratch and I hope you'll see this as an
> opportunity to jump into the fray.
>
> In response to numerous requests we finally have an archive
> of posts online. This is searchable and goes back to the
> beginning of the squad. Thanks to Magnus for creating this
> invaluable resource.
>
> We have two excellent new essays in the forum: Sojourner on
> the "giants" of social patterns and new member Lorenz Gude
> on the Dharmakya light.
>
> Andrew has been urging us all to read Ken Wilber for insights
> into Dynamic and static value and he recommends the
> following websites for further reading:
>
> The World of Ken Wilber : This is a page dedicated to Wilber
> by Frank Visser, who translates Wilber's work into Dutch. He
> actually visited Ken, and has audio clips on his site that are an
> interesting twist.
>
> The PL Ken Wilber site : A nice site, not exactly up to the
> minute, but still rich in material.
>
> Ken Wilber Online : Ken's publisher, Shambhala, has this site
> for him, advertising both books and thought. Some good
> exclusive interviews, etc.
>
> For those interested in AI and the MoQ Jonathan
> recommends this site:
>
> Human and Machine dignity : Rosalind Picard, author of the
> book, ``Affective Computing'' describes how computers can
> be given certain emotional abilities, how emotions can be
> regarded as an integral and essential part of human rationality.
> This idea comes very close to the "coherence of romantic and
> classical understanding" a core idea in Robert Pirsig's
> philosophy.
>
> If anyone else has links or articles which they think would be
> interesting to the squad please send them on to me.
>
>
> 23 July 1998
>
> A reminder that the topic for August is supposed to be "the
> four levels of quality and their relationships" and "SOM
> platypi and MoQ solutions" is the topic for September. Both
> Maggie and Glove have webpages which deal with the 4
> levels so check them out if you want to get a head start on
> the subject.
>
> This doesn't mean the D/S split is finished yet, we still have a
> week to go. If you think you've got it sussed can you write
> up a summary of your views on the subject and send it to
> me. Coming to a consensus about it is clearly too difficult at
> this stage but we can still create some latching by
> documenting our thoughts so far.
>
> New in the Forum is an essay from Jonathan on science and
> objectivity - definitely worth reading.
>
> And we have more new recruits on the squad page.
>
> Plus, a reminder that several of the Lila Squad have reared
> their heads on the sci.philosophy.meta newsgroup and if you
> want to discuss Pirsig stuff other than the LS topics that's the
> place to go. If your ISP doesn't carry it, try DejaNews
> instead
>
>
> 10 July 1998
>
> Lots of news today.
>
> First we have this posh new website with our own domain
> name. Please check it out fully and let me know if you have
> anything to submit to the forum.
>
> Second in order to provide room for free discussion outside
> of the LS topics we're trying to set up a newsgroup. This can
> take a while but one thing we can all do to help is start
> participating actively in current newsgroups so that we can
> demonstrate publically that there's a lot of interest in the
> subject.
>
> Back at the LS ranch, we will stick to our focused debate. To
> make it easier to keep track of what's going on we thought
> we should allocate one topic per calendar month. At the
> moment the schedule is:
>
> July: Dynamic vs static split
> August: The four levels of Quality
> September: SOM platypi and MoQ solutions
>
> I know this means dragging the D/S topic on for a while but
> it's an important subject and deserves proper consideration. If
> you think you've got it all figured out try writing an essay for
> the website.
>
> As many of the posts recently have the same subject line, it's
> become difficult to follow different threads of thought. With
> the topics clearly allocated to calendar months there's no need
> to stick to the same subject title in each post, so can everyone
> please use a descriptive subject line in their posts. The subject
> should something that catches the essence of their thought.
> People who want to comment and follow-up on a particular
> post should reply using the same subject line, while those
> starting new lines of thought in the discussion should use a
> new title.
>
> Recent subscribers will find their bios are finally on the squad
> page. We also have an essay from Richard and a poem from
> Sojourner in the forum.
>
>
> 27th June 1998
>
> We're back online and more than a dozen posts should be
> arriving in your inbox any moment now.
>
> For the benefit of the new members, the LS has been offline
> for the past week which is why there's been a delay in
> subscribing you to the list. Before the break we were
> discussing the dynamic/static split and it looks like we'll have
> to continue on that for at least another couple of weeks.
> Please don't hesistate to join in the debate -- we always
> welcome newcomers.
>
>
> 17th June 1998
>
> We're going to have to take a break from Fri 19th to Thurs
> 24th as I suddenly have to leave town and there's nobody to
> take care of the list. Sorry for the short notice but I've only
> just learned myself. If you have anything urgent to share with
> the world regarding the D/S split please get it in by Friday (or
> Thurs night if you're in the US).
>
> We are working on moving the list to another server so
> hopefully this is the last time this will happen. In the
> meantime the break will give everyone time to enjoy the
> footie.
>
>
> 31st May 1998
>
> The end of May is upon us. It seems rather arbitrary to stop
> the SOM discussion in mid stream but I'm afraid if we don't
> draw the line somewhere it's going to go on forever.
>
> It would have been nice if we'd reached a conclusion, but I
> guess we haven't. The best I can suggest is that we prepare
> some kind of summary in the form of:
>
>The topic "Explain the subject-object
>metaphyics" was raised and the following
>answers were suggested..... <>
>
> A few people have already volunteered "answers" but there
> have also been revisions so I'm not entirely sure what the
> final versions are supposed to be. Can anybody that wants to
> propose an answer please send their final offering to me
> directly (including those who've already posted one to the
> list). I'll put them altogether somewhere for reference. It's not
> a perfect solution but hopefully if/when we come round to
> this topic again it will save us from going over the same
> ground again.
>
> And the next topic is explain the dynamic-static split.
>
> So let's get busy...
>
>
> 15th May 1998
>
> After some discussion in the steering committee we decided
> to end the "Explain the Subject-Object Metaphysics" program
> on 31st May. Between then and now we should be thinking
> about summing up and coming to some kind of conclusion.
> I've posted most of the messages up [page has since been
> deleted]. A few have been left out either because they were
> too long or they weren't relevant (well you were warned!).
> The next topic will be "Explain the Dynamic-static split".
>
> If you're desperate to talk about something else, please
> consider writing an essay for the forum. We haven't had any
> additions to that page for ages and it would be nice to see
> something new. Send your essays directly to me in the body
> of an email and I'll mark them up in html and post them up
> there.
>
> Another gaggle of new members have signed up. We've
> already heard from some of them. Check out the
> ever-growing squad page to find out more about them.
>
>
> 22nd April 1998
>
> Things are still a bit iffy, but I've had more positive feedback
> than negative about Plan B, so I think we'll keep on trooping.
>
> The now-established Lila Squad committee is:
>
> Magnus Berg, qmgb@bull.se
> Ken Clark, clark@netsites.net
> Keith A. Gillette, gillette@tahc.state.tx.us
> Maggie Hettinger, hettingr@iglou.com
> Horse, horse@wasted.demon.nl
> Diana McPartlin, diana@asiantravel.com
> Bodvar Skutvik, skutvik@online.no
>
> If you want to discuss anything about the running of the
> squad please contact me or one of others (especially Ken
> because he doesn't get enough email).
>
> For the benefit of our new subscribers the current Lila Squad
> topic is "Explain the subject-object metaphysics". Not sure
> that we've actually achieved anything but if anyone wants to
> have a go at summing it all up and coming to a conclusion
> please go ahead.
>
>
> 13th April 1998
>
>"Can you do addition?" the White Queen asked.
>"What's one and one and one and one and one
>and one and one and one and one and one?"
>
>"I don't know," said Alice. "I lost count."
>
>"She can't do addition," the Red Queen
>interrupted.
>
> Actually Alice can do addition. And she can do algebra and
> trig and physics and chemistry and psychology and relativity
> and complementarity and artificial intelligence and fuzzy logic
> and Kant and Marx and Descartes and Hegel and Lao Zi. But
> she isn't going to get anywhere if she tries to do them all at
> once.
>
> To refresh everyone's memory: "The objective of the Lila
> Squad is to look more closely at the MoQ and to come to
> some consensus about what the MoQ says, how appropriate
> it is and how we can use it."
>
> Older members of the squad will recall that I have repeatedly
> asked people to keep things simple and structured so that this
> objective can be met. I had hoped that this would happen
> naturally, but obviously it isn't going to.
>
> So we shall move to plan B.
>
> A topic will be proposed. LS members are invited to post
> their opinions on the topic. All posts meeting the requirements
> of relevance, clarity, brevity, courtesy and intellectual rigor
> will be forwarded to the squad. Any posts that don't meet
> these requirements will be deleted.
>
> I know this is harsh but please understand that it's not
> because I don't think anybody else has anything interesting to
> say but because I *do* think others have interesting things to
> say and I wish to clear some space so that I can hear them.
> That's not an insult. That's a compliment.
>
>
> 15 March 1998
>
> Yikes, we haven't had a newsletter for six weeks! No new
> essays but we have got new recruits from Brazil, Italy and
> Wales -- the Lila Squad's rise to world domination is surely
> only moments away.
>
> I'd like to start a Lila Squad steering committee to discuss
> various administrative issues. Backseat drivers I can do
> without, but if you've got ideas AND are willing to make
> these ideas happen then please send me a note. This applies to
> new members and old, lurkers and non-lurkers, in fact
> anybody who can spend a couple of hours a month helping
> develop the group.
>
>
> 31st January 1998
>
> In response to popular demand I've reinstated the big Q on
> the front of the website. I guess I just got sick of looking at
> it, but apparently a lot of people liked it so back it goes.
>
> I've had a crisis of faith in our ability to establish principles. I
> know it was a bit naughty of me to publish them on the site
> before we had agreed on them [nb they have since been
> deleted] but I figured I had to do something to get everyone's
> attention and in any case it would only take a week or two to
> get them right. I now feel that it will take several months and
> it's misleading to leave something unfinished up in public like
> that. The principles are still there but now they're preceded by
> an explanation that this is a work in progress and an invitation
> for people to comment on them.
>
> As was anticipated, the copyright for Lila lies with the
> publishers and it seems unlikely that they will give permission
> for it to be published on the Web, so we're going to have to
> give up that idea.
>
> New in the forum is Mark Lencho's What we are which he
> recently posted to the mailing list. I've also added a review of
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Michael
> Wood, first published in New Society.
>
>
>
> 16th January 1998
>
> Many of you have already noticed that I've changed the
> format of the website. It should load faster and be easier to
> navigate now. I've turned the "what?" page into a FAQ
> dealing with administrative stuff and the questions and
> answers from Bodvar about Pirsig and his whereabouts. I've
> also created a new page called MoQ and I've posted the
> Principles of the MoQ up there [now deleted].
>
> Bodvar and Maggie are working on converting Lila to a digital
> format although we still haven't heard anything from Pirsig
> about it.
>
> As ever we have an assortment of new subscribers most of
> whom have sent bios. And if you haven't already seen it "The
> Good in everyone" by Samuel Palmer is now in the forum.
>
> In response to Ken's inquiry there has been no plague,
> Armageddon or satanic possession on the LS recently, but
> hopefully things will pick up in the spring;-)
>
>
>
> 4th January 1998
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> The Lila Squad is officially open for business so let's get
> those brain cells buzzing again. I hope everyone has had a
> refreshing break and is ready for an action-packed 1998.
>
> For the benefit of our four new subscribers (amongst them
> the self-confessed "Daughter of Ken Clark")(bios will follow
> shortly), the LS has been working on establishing a set of
> principles/basics of the Metaphysics of Quality. Several of us
> have posted suggestions for this and they're gathered together
> on our secret page (anyone not in the squad who wants to
> see this please drop me a note and I'll give you the URL).
> This is a work in progress so please check it out and tell us
> what you think.
>
> And for the rest of you, welcome back, let's get posting
> again, I can't wait to get started:-)
>
>
>
> 21st December 1997
>
> Okay that's it, time up, the Lila Squad is officially on holiday
> until 3rd January '98! I've just added three new members bios
> and put Bo's version of the principles up on the Web site
> [now deleted]. If you're at a loose end over the next couple of
> weeks please take the time to go over the principles and see
> what you make of them. I haven't had time to consider all
> James' recent comments but I did think that his suggestion
> that the principles should show how Quality is related to
> "reality," "truth," "consciousness," and "morality" was well
> worth bearing in mind.
>
> Facing a break from the squad has given me a chance to
> reflect on the past four months. I have to say the mailing list
> has become far more sucessful than I ever anticipated. We
> now have 38 members with a couple more signing up every
> week. It has been a joy to find so many other people willing
> to discuss the MoQ and my understanding of Pirsig's work
> (not to mention reality;-) is certainly much clearer.
>
> I'd like to thank everyone for participating with such
> enthusiasm and for making so many superb contributions to
> the forum. I'd also like to thank everyone for being so patient
> with me as I figure out how to run this thing.
>
> I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and look forward
> to seeing you all again in the new year.
>
>
>
> 10th December 1997
>
> In spite of rumblings of discontent, several people (Dave,
> Martin, Magnus, Ken, me) have offered up principles of the
> MoQ and I've put them altogether on a single page. I think we
> should keep this for the eyes of the Lila Squad only for now
> as it is a work in progress, so it isn't in the navigation system
> of the rest of the website.
>
> We also have a couple of new members, so check out the
> squad page. Please join in folks! I'm sure I speak for
> everyone when I say that fresh perspectives are always
> welcome.
>
>
>
> 29th October 1997
>
> Four new members since the last update. Amongst them
> Martin Striz who has a website about Quality and David
> Thomas who has also submitted an essay for the Lila Squad
> site.
>
> Doug has sent me a list of questions as a basis for our
> proposed FAQ (frequently asked questions). I've posted them
> in the [now defunct] threads section. Doug has also
> suggested that we take one question each week and try and
> answer it. Sounds good to me. If you want to add more
> questions to the list please send them on.
>
>
>
> 15th October 1997
>
> More updates on the Web site. Doug has written to Pirsig on
> the question of whether the MoQ is extensible. Pirsig has
> replied and I've put both those letters in the Forum.
>
> There are also two new reviews of LILA in the Forum. Both
> of them are decidedly unfavorable, but for the most part their
> criticisms don't amount to much more than name calling.
> Still, it's interesting to see how other people have reacted to
> LILA.
>
> It would be nice to build up the site some more. Please send
> me anything you've written or any reviews or links that you
> think are relevant. Also, if you feel like submitting the URL to
> any search engines or directories please just go ahead. So far
> I've done Altavista, Infoseek, Yahoo, Hotbot... and that's
> about it.
>
>
>
> 1st October 1997
>
> Sorry, no exciting messages from Pirsig this week. But we
> have SIX new members -- only two of whom have sent bios
> though. A few people have asked me if bios are compulsory.
> No, it is your constitutional right to lurk anonymously if you
> wish;-)
>
> Our new members include James McCabe who has his own
> Pirsig site. Please check out his pages if you haven't already.
>
> Other things that have come up:
>
> Mail management is becoming a problem. In case anyone
> missed it Lars suggests using Pegasus for Windows . Any
> other advice is welcome.
>
> I'm all for setting up FAQs and archives, but as I'm finding it
> hard enough to keep the Web site up to date I can't offer to
> do it myself. Any volunteers? One of the reasons for getting a
> Geocities homepage (other than cos I'm cheap) was so that it
> wouldn't just be *my* website. It's easy enough to share the
> password with others so that they can update sections of the
> site directly.
>
> I have this feeling that we should have our own LS greetings
> and adieux like "live long and prosper" or as Doug says
> "Many truths to you". In keeping with the message in the last
> paragraph of LILA maybe ET's way of saying "bye for now"
> would be most appropriate.......Be good.
>
>
>
> 20th September 1997
>
> More additions to the Forum page: quotes from Eugen
> Herrigel's Zen in the Art of Archery, Doug's review of Lila
> and, by popular demand, Platt's "Say Hello to Now."
>
> The only new bio is Gene's, we have a few other new
> subscribers but no details yet.
>
> I got an email about the Lila Squad from Robert M Pirsig.
> Sadly he declined to join the list but here are his comments:
>
>I stumbled across your stunning Athens Forum
>site last night and called Wendy to the
>computer. When we had finished reading it all
>we took out a bottle of cognac and celebrated.
>The MOQ is at last out of my hands. Other
>people are at last sustaining it on a continuing
>social basis. I can disappear tomorrow and it
>will keep on going. This is a major event in its
>history.
>
>All day I've wondered how much I should
>participate, and the Zen answer keeps repeating
>itself: "Don't! You will just shut everyone else
>up. They'll all sit back and wait for the great
>author to speak and that is the worst thing that
>could happen." The material for the MOQ is not
>something I invented out of thin air. It has been
>lying dormant within the culture for centuries. I
>have mined probably less than one per cent of
>what is there. The best readers will pay minimal
>attention to what I have found and maximal
>attention to what I have missed. That's where
>the excitement is.
>
> I think that's a thumbs up :-)
>
>
>
> 6th September 1997
>
> Phew! Finally got that EMM paper finished. It's online on the
> old geocities site. The section headings (apart from the
> Metaphysics of Quality) were added by me to make it more
> manageable.
>
> I've also added several new bios. We are getting a steady
> stream (okay, trickle) of new members so please check them
> out.
>
> Much of the debate on the LS is focused on quantum physics
> at the moment. This is great and it's certainly an important
> part of the MoQ. However the MoQ also has much relevance
> to politics, religion, art, culture, the paranormal, evolution,
> psychology, spirituality and EVERYTHING. If you're
> interested in any of these things, please start posting!
>
>
>
> 27th August 1997
>
> After a few hiccups, the list seems to be running smoothly.
>
> We are now up to 12 members. Please check out the new
> bios on the squad page; we are nothing if not diverse. I'm
> putting the newest members at the top of the list now - got
> sick of seeing my own bio all the time.
>
> Jason has submitted a well-annotated list of Pirsig links and
> I've put them up on the links page. If anyone knows of any
> more relevant links please let me know.
>
> Please also check out Doug's framework for the MoQ which
> is now on the reviews (btw I'm renaming this page
> "writings").
>
> It would probably be useful to maintain an archive of posts
> on the website, but I'm afraid I don't have time. Any
> volunteers??
>
> I trust you are all enjoying the mental gymnastics as much as
> I am:-)
>
>
>
> 22nd August 1997
>
> Lila chat
>
> On September 24th at 9:30PM (central time: GMT - 4 hours)
> there will be a Lila discussion hosted by the Undernet Book
> Discussion Group.
>
>
>
> 21st August 1997
>
> Up, up and away
>
> Having discovered that the geocities address won't work with
> my listserver, I've moved the server to a different address.
>
> Some comments on how the listserver works. Any messages
> sent to the server address are automatically copied and sent
> out to everyone on the subscriber list. A header and footer are
> added and the abbreviation "LS" (Lila Squad) is added to the
> subject line. The server only recognizes messages from email
> addresses on the subscriber list, so if an unauthorized person
> tries to post or if you spell your return address wrongly the
> messages will not distributed to the list, but will go to my
> personal account by default. I cannot check the messages
> before they go out. I have a dial up connection so messages
> will only be sent when I am online. Sometimes you may find
> they are redistributed instantly, other times it may be several
> hours.
>
> I am really looking at this as a temporary situation. Over the
> next few months I will consider other alternatives, perhaps a
> bulletin board or moving the listserver to a computer with an
> open line connection. But it all depends on how active the list
> becomes.
>
>
>
> 21st August 1997
>
> Seven subscribers now
>
> That seems like enough to me so I sent out our first list letter.
>
> I've also listed this site on a couple of search engines and
> posted the URL to a few newsgroups.
>
> A few people have suggested gathering more published and
> unpublished material about Pirsig and putting it on this site. I
> think it's a great idea as I'm sure you'll agree there really isn't
> much available online at the moment. If you have anything
> that you think others would be interested in send it along to
> me .
>
>
>
> 18th August 1997
>
> Headline news - the Lila Squad is born!
>
> Almost
>
> I'm tentatively launching a mailing list. Only got three
> subscribers so far but it's a start. First I want to do some
> brainstorming just to figure out what we're going to do. Once
> we get ourselves focused, and once I've got more info up on
> these pages, I'm going to have a bigger launch - ie spam a
> few newsgroups and submit the URL to search engines and
> possible link partners.
>
> Anyone want to help with this? Let me know.
>
>
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