dear david, when you say:
<Your inorganic, organic and
social patterns are in direct contact with Dynamic Quality right now.
They "know" something your intellect doesn't.
i say:
isn't that the truth? the body may need rest and we keep pushing it to
work, or underfeed it, etc. in terms of the mythos or social level, as
pirsig revealed it also behaves as an organism and has needs that the
intellect may be unavware of. the ego thinks its the center of the universe
and that it knows everything there is to know but it is not.
that is why dreams are so disconcerting.
have you ever had dreams that you didn't have knowledge of in your conscious
mind and wondered how come you knew in your dream?
you answered this question when you said:
<So what dreams do is try to tell the
intellect what the body and the unconscious mind already know. Dreams
are messages from the unconscious mind, which is in direct contact with
DQ.
lithien:
but, would you clear up one thing for me? when you say:
<Its like the unconscious mind, where the mythos resides,
tells the intellect what to look for.
with this reference the definition of the mythos is unclear to me. would
you give me a clear definiton of the mythos? i had thought you used it as
the social level of MOQ. but now im not too sure.
you added:
<When Pirsig talks
about the "social" levels of values he means the mythos, which is a
deeper and more primary concept. He doesn't really mean public values or
peer values or even civic values, although they are related concepts and
are different manifestations of the social level values.
lithien:
exactly what is it then? a deeper and more primary concept of what?
you add:
<Most of the UFO abduction stories include some kind of sexual experience
and that's a clue that its related to the devine birth stories. A
human/alien hybred would certainly be a new kind of creature, and one
assumes it would be superior due to it's galaxie surfing alien genes. I
think this ufo stuff is mostly just a different expression of the same old
myths.
lithien:
it sounds like it could be the same myth of the outsider who comes to claim
the kingdom and is reputed to have divine parentage.
i have the book "The Inner Reaches of Outer Space" and the first two volumes
of "The Masks of God", "The Power of Myth" and "The Hero with a Thousand
Faces".
thanks, David.
Lithien
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