RE: MD An Holistic Approach to the MoQ

From: Platt Holden (pholden5@earthlink.net)
Date: Wed Jan 20 1999 - 13:55:19 GMT


Hi Horse and LS:

PLATT:

> > Evil has no place in the MoQ? I beg to differ. The MoQ is all about good
> > and evil.

HORSE:
 
> It had always been my impression that the MOQ is about Quality and how it creates
> reality.
 
Hmmm. I always thought the MOQ was about morals, as in "LILA-An Inquiry into Morals."

HORSE:

> Platt, it was not my intention to LITERALLY replace the terms Good, Bad, Evil etc.
> with Low Value and High Value. What I was suggesting was that the idea of Good and
> Evil in their old Socio-Religious context are superceded by an MOQ context. Good and
> Evil are Quality/Value judgements. What is perceived as Good at one level may also
> be simultaneously Evil at another - what's Good for Society may be Evil for Biology.
> This is contextual not relative.

Help me here. What's the distinction in your mind between "relative" and
"contextual?" To me both words mean, "dependent on ..."

HORSE:

> What worries me about a Good/Evil debate is that there is an assumption that there is
> ONLY Good or Evil. A person is Good OR Evil. An action is Good OR Evil. Which
> brings us right back to the all or nothing view. Good and Evil are present by degree.
> Was Joe Stalin ALL evil. Was Gandhi ALL good. No!
> The Goodness or Badness is the degree to which Quality is present. This is also the
> foundation of Justice and Punishment. The severity of punishment is proportional to the
> severity of the crime (in theory!). Each level recognizes that there are degrees of
> Quality and the Static/Dynamic and inter-level conflict are of degree and not absolutes.

Horse, I think you and I have been down this road before where you see
most everything in shades of grey whereas I see grey as the area
between the absolutes of black and white. When it comes to good and
evil, I agree with you that shades of grey or "degrees of fitness and
rightness" is the more realistic, intelligent view. But, I wouldn't say that
was an absolute, would you? :-)

Platt

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