ROGER ENJOYS THE EXCHANGE WITH STRUAN
To: Quantum Be bop cool cats:
ROGER WROTE:
<<"The point i want to make is that anyone that believes in particles, a)
doesn't
follow the MOQ, and b) doesn't agree with modern physics.
Particles are abstract intellectual concepts describing value
interactions.">>
STRUAN RESPONDED:
<<Hmm . . . so you do believe in particles then? If they are something why
don't you believe in them.
Surely a cat is just as much an abstract intellectual concept as a particle,
but it is still useful
to be able to discern it from the sofa when I sit down. Do you not think that
the universe can be
perceived in terms of particles, waves, or quality depending upon the context
that suits us best and
the explanatory power each provides in that particular context?>>
ROGER NOW REPLIES:
I could be cute and reply that "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is",
but this would be too presidential. You see my point and are actually
reenforcing it fine with your question. Particles and waves are handy as
concepts. They only become awkward when you start saying that observation
doesn't change or create the abstraction that we are referring to. Value
interaction is all that exists. If the moon was by itself in a nothingness,
then it makes no sense. A thing is defined and created in relation to other
things . The value interaction goes beyond defining, it creates.
Pirsig admitted that some undefinable DQ reality exists out there. But it is
unknowable. It can only be touched in Direct Experience....which creates the
subject(self) and object (particle).
Quantum theory makes sense via the MOQ. That which we define as a particle is
changed/created by the interaction we have with it.
Roger
PS John Coltrane was God!
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