Glove,
Is that to say that the human species is still evolving biologically? I
was under the impression that the biological level needed to "latch" so
that anything can evolve on top of it.
Rick
At 02:01 PM 1/30/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Rick, good to see you back again!
>
>Glove:
>
>>"I have been pondering your question and I am unsure that any social
>>>>evolution, as we know it, would take place in a biologically "stable"
>>>>population. It too would have to be "programmed", would it not? (is that
>>>>what you mean by "pyscho-social evolution"?) What drives social
>evolution?
>>>>Its the biological diversity. If that is eliminated by genetically
>>altering
>>>>Dynamic Quality "into", in essence locking it out of, the biological
>>level,
>>>>there will be nothing to drive the social or intellect levels either."
>
>Rick:
>>
>>This touches on something I have been talking about with a Pirsig fan who
>>is not online with us. Does a lower level have to stop evolving for a
>>higher level to evolve on top of it? I realize that the higher level
>>struggles to control and keep the lower level in check, but does it need
>>to totally cut it off from DQ? Did the protections of Society cut us off
>>from the natural selection process that caused us to evolve far enough to
>>create societies in the first place??? Does this mean that societies now
>>evolve instead of biological entities? Or have societies that have reached
>>the Intellectual level been cut off from evolution so that Intellect can
>>safely evolve on top? Anyone? Anyone?
>
>Glove:
>
>In my opinion, each level in the Metaphysics of Quality has its own
>evolutionary patterns being directed by underlying forces of value. The
>inorganic level is beyond our being able to conceptualize what is occurring
>there, so I will ignore that one. The biological level is driven by both
>creative and dis-creative forces of value and results in the evolution of
>the species as we understand it. The social level is directed by creative
>forces of value and results in what can be called memes, social evolution.
>The intellect level is directed by discreative forces of value and even
>though this is the driving force behind the very process of Darwinian
>natural selection, we have no conception of what is actually occurring
>within the intellect level. It can be termed simply a "blank", an abstract
>generalization of reality.
>
>So to answer your question, I would say that if a lower level stopped
>evolving, yes, the upper levels would also come to a stasis. Dynamic Quality
>is the driving force of value within the Metaphysics of Quality and it works
>in sychronicity between the seemingly opposing levels, or it doesnt work at
>all.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>glove
>
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