From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Oct 03 2004 - 23:45:58 BST
Scott said to David M:
Notice that you start with one question (how do we describe awareness) but
then you drop that question entirely when you get into cataloguing
patterns. Cataloging patterns is a good thing to do, but it cannot help in
answering the original question. ...My answer is that one cannot describe
awareness, no more than one can describe Quality. What one can do is point
out general forms in which awareness and value occurs....
dmb says:
I know this is a different thread, but these comments are part of the "bit
of reasoning" debate. If I see what you're doing here, it seems you've
isolated "awareness" in a way that Pirsig doesn't intend. The MOQ says that
the ultimate reality is immediate experience. The whole thing begins with
and proceeds from awareness. Awareness is the most fundamental thing of all.
All patterns of value are based on it, the world is built of it and there is
nothing else. Its all about levels and degrees of consciousness.
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