From: Mari (mld2001@adelphia.net)
Date: Fri Jan 17 2003 - 17:45:18 GMT
John wrote:
Mari wrote........
> i
> > didn't even know were there even though i created it in time and space;
> put
> > it into existence, into motion in a manner of speaking so others could
> hear
> > it, see it, feel it, smell it, taste it, experience it......
John wrote:
> Isn't that one of the joys of life? Discovering something new in something
> you know intimately.
Mari says: INDEED!
John wrote:
> I would say reading ZMM for the first time was a very similar experience
> for me, not comparable with creating but anyway, here I am bumbling
through
> life and there's a guy out there with some very good answers to a lot of
my
> problems. It was uplifting.
>
> We were talking before about the Classic/ Romantic split, did you manage
to
> re-read that part of ZMM.
Mari: Yes John i did go back and read it again and once again i saw things i
didn't see in previous readings. i was thinking about this as well as a few
other perspectives of life around and of me now, which most definetly is
influenced by the MoQdg, ZMM, Lila, and the X list which pretty much
includes everything in my awarness relative to the oscillating values and
the eValue i place on them moment to moment; the earth spining and turning,
moving, wobbling through space at the same time with all it's various size
atoms in whatever configuration synergistic or not, chaotic or not, the
happening and the tragedies, the miracles and the missery; all a soup that
"i" am a part of never apart of or apart from....choosing what's with-in the
limits of the rules which continue to change even evlove.....who's the brujo
today?
Making sense of it........you go girl!
John Says:
I think that 's where a lot of our difficulty
> lies. How you come to the work. Mari I think we (you, me, Rudy and others)
> come to Pirsig as romantic people (Pirsigs description of his friends,
John
> and Sylvia, and his lecturer friend DeWeese), where as most of the people
on
> this DG come from Pirsigs analytical science based perspective, we are
going
> to have trouble understanding each other.
Mari says: Hmmmmmm You paint an interesting picture Rocky! ;-)
John said:
> Erin supplied me with an answer for all of the tooing and froing, getting
> the ideas straight in their own heads.
Mari asks: What is that "answer" John?
>
> i want to say: Is it possible for us to agree on things.....then i think:
> > that's one of those statements that will lead us back into the conundrum
> > wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. ( allow me to "recontexualize" a
> Bob
> > Dylan song by changing one word to fit my need: To be stuck inside A
> > (instead of "of" ) Mobile With the Memphis blues again). The Mobile
spins
> > too fast it seems to me. What are we doing? Where are we going? Can we
> find
> > a way that will lead self and group to a higher good. What is "best"?
> Wasn't
> > that the question that RMP asked that leads us here now?
>
John said:
> I always throw up when I spin around to fast so when I see one of these
> mobiles I stay well away from them.
>
>
> John from The Rock
>
Mari says: John, did you ever wonder what the whirling dervish's get from
spinning? Maybe we're missing something.....maybe after one vomits they move
into another state of mind; a place where a different reality opens up for
one to enter. Maybe there really is another side, another reality? As long
as we're part of the soup......bon appetit!
TY
iMari
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