Re: MD On Faith

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Oct 09 2004 - 20:10:38 BST

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    Ian

    I cannot imagine a dispute with the reality of evolution,
    but you never know, on the other hand,
    how anyone who knows of the MOQ,
    can consider neo-Darwinist attempts
    to tell the story of evolution in pseudo-mechanist
    terms, anything other than SOM house-bound and unconvincing
    I also find hard to imagine.

    DM

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ian Glendinning" <ian@psybertron.org>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:25 PM
    Subject: Re: MD On Faith

    > What - I'm no Dawkins fan, but Scott, surely there are still not people
    > trying to suggest Darwinian evolution is not a credible fit with the
    > objective science. I've been round this cycle several times already even
    in
    > my time on this board. Science is great in its place, and biology is a
    good
    > place for it.
    > Ian
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:19 AM
    > Subject: RE: MD On Faith
    >
    >
    > > Mark et al,
    > >
    > > > msh says:
    > > > Yep. And people who spend a lot of energy downplaying the value of
    > > > science, math, and logic are to me always suspect. Robert Duvall,
    > > > the great American actor, was once asked what he thought about movie
    > > > critics. He said: "Show me a critic and I'll show you a failure."
    > > > His meaning is clear, and applies to critics of science, math and
    > > > logic. I think it's time to start checking college transcripts.
    > >
    > > Couldn't agree more about those who downplay the value of science, math,
    > > and logic, but no one in this thread has. Though I think it is
    overstated,
    > > Platt's point is that scientists also operate within a faith structure.
    > >
    > > Dawkins is not defending science so much as promoting scientific
    > > materialism. Gathering the evidence for evolution is science. Claiming
    > that
    > > evolution has happened solely through chance and natural selection is
    > > metaphysics.
    > >
    > > - Scott
    > >
    > >
    > >
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