From: Jim Ledbury (jim.ledbury@dsl.pipex.com)
Date: Tue Oct 19 2004 - 20:30:30 BST
Hi Scott,
>>>[Scott:] It has been resolved for over a hundred years in liberal
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>Protestant
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>>>theology. The Catholics took longer, but they have no problem either,
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>since
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>>>Vatican II.
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>>jl in polite astonishment:
>>Really????????
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>So now I have to guess what conflict you had in mind.
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jl:
No, not really Scott. I just dispute the whole basis of the statement.
The basic religions have been tacking onto science so that they don't
have to to a major volta face at any stage in the face of evidence. I
do not feel that Christianity in any organised form has ever got over
the idea that the world might not be created by an overseeing power. If
you want to refer to Pirsig, this is the flipside of the idea that
science had to make a truce with religion for it's survival. Well, now
religion is able to make a truce with science because science hasn't got
a clue about how to talk about morals, therefore doesn't understand that
anything is missing, so religion is able to make a last gasp.
My basic point is that there is practically zero correspondence between
the way that religion wishes to pervert science and science itself.
Religion always wants to try to prove that its dogma is valid. Science
is wrong to the extent that it falls into the same trap.
Regards,
Jim.
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