RE: MD Is Morality Relative?

From: Mark Steven Heyman (
Date: Sun Dec 12 2004 - 22:47:37 GMT

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    Well guys,

    I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I'm not sure I can dedicate
    the time necessary to do the job right. You both write a LOT, and
    usually about Mysticism which, as dmb points out, eludes me, though
    it might be more accurate to say that it is the part of Pirsig that I
    find least interesting for my purposes.

    However, I'll point out evasions or shifts or circularities when I
    see them, but your posts often refer to this and that from another
    post referring to another, etc, not to mention references to sources
    on mysticism and philosophy. Tracking all this stuff down to check
    for consistency and completeness would be impossible for me, time-

    But if either of you feels aggrieved and can point to specific
    questions and what you feel to be inadequate or evasive or shifted or
    circular responses, I'll do my best to arbitrate.

    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

    On 12 Dec 2004 at 10:27, David Buchanan wrote:

    Sam Norton said:
    I was just wondering if MSH would agree to act as a sort of arbiter,
    not to say 'he's right and he's wrong', but to say 'he's raised a
    point that you haven't addressed' and things like that. Just to help
    with fending off the mudslinging and keeping us 'on message'.

    dmb says:
    Sounds OK to me. A translator, a ref, a third party is usually
    helpful. Based on his posts, MSH strikes me as fair-minded. It seems
    to me that the mystical aspects have largely eluded him so far and so
    its not that I'm asking MSH to act as MOQ expert or anything.
    Fairmindedness is all it takes. And he knows an evasion when he see
    one too. The guy even gives humorous and accurate labels to the
    various kinds of shifts and evasions. Yep, he's the guy.

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