From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Thu May 05 2005 - 09:00:03 BST
Mark,
Housekeeping out of the way - on to your point ...
You say
"there is a huge difference between the epistemological foundations of
science and religion, and to suggest otherwise is, as I like to say,
pure confusion."
I say I know you and lots of other illustrious people sincerely "know"
that to be true.
But I'm here to tell you you're wrong. If I say ..
Can't argue with historically different foundations, and separate
chcequered histories, but the net results of those two are only
"rationalised as being different", whereas that is not actually true.
You'll maybe understand why I might struggle to explain. I struggle
even to find words to express it. But that's mere words. Pure visible
confusion indeed - and not necessarily a bad thing I might say. Better
than impure invisible confusion. Sorry I didn't mean to get all mystic
on you.
Ian
On 5/5/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Ant quotes from Ian's blog:
>
> "Oh my god, this is truly awful. The logical positivist memeplex
> reinforces the religious memeplex. Science has unwittingly been it's
> own worst enemy."
>
> msh says:
> Although I know Ian prefers physics to religion for pure explanatory
> power, this quotation is to me a great example of how, by using
> exotic terminology, someone might, to an ear less skeptical than
> mine, come across as being profound when all they are being is at
> best provincial, at worst obscure. The quote seems to suggest that
> LP and religion are equally useful systems of investigation, that
> science has been caught in its own lie and is hoist by its own
> petard. This obvious falsehood is given an aura of truth by the use
> of the sophisticated sounding "memeplex." Must I really run to
> Dawkins in order to understand a sentence that, with slightly more
> effort, could have been written using plain ol' English?
>
> Apropos to this thread, there is a huge difference between the
> epistemological foundations of science and religion, and to suggest
> otherwise is, as I like to say, pure confusion.
>
> Just my fiftieth of a dollar, and I don't expect any money back.
>
> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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