From: David M (davidint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Tue Aug 16 2005 - 09:39:28 BST
Hi Mark Steven Heyman
I'll drop my 'U's and you can drop your middle
name and we can prevent global warming together.
DM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: MD The MOQ in Hollywood
> Hi Ian, Ant, Sam, Horse, Davids M and H, et al,
>
> Ya wanna know what I think? Here's what...
>
> Do you Brits know how many keystrokes you waste, year after year,
> typing words like "humour", "labour", "behaviour?" My guess is it's
> directly related to the melting of the polar ice caps.
>
> And don't even get me started on the "s" rather than "z" thing.
>
>
> Best,
> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
> --
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>
>
> "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy
> condensed through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness
> experiencing itself subjectively, life is only a dream and we are the
> imaginations of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
>
> -- Bill Hicks
>
>
>
> On 14 Aug 2005 at 14:42, ian glendinning wrote:
>
> Look Mark (me old mate ;-) )
> This one's deadly serious - no joking.
> I know you set this thread up as a challenge to Platt.
>
> Let me cut to the issue (for me).
> What makes a good debate / argument / case ?
>
> In this case you are about to trade stereotypical (right wing)
> Hollywood expressions of US macho dominance, with whatever left wing
> propaganda Platt throws back at you. You're all ears, we can't wait.
> Anyone keeping score ?
>
> In another thread you said - I deal in tightly reasoned logic, not ad
> hominem attacks, and I wouldn't dispute that.
>
> What I would argue is than NEITHER trading stereotypical propaganda,
> NOR tightly reasoned logic are high quality arguments for MoQ-Discuss.
>
> This is where I came in on MoQ-Discuss, 3 years ago ?, mainly arguing
> with DM, DMB and Platt as I recall - that tightly reasoned logic was
> the problem that MoQ was trying to break / fix. There are better
> quality arguments to be had, rhetoric and humour for a start, but it's
> the whole Zen half of the story that's missing.
>
> Was it Marsha or Erin who asked "Where is the Zen ?"
>
> For some arguments numbers and logic are the worst tools. Geddit ?
>
> I'll stop there for effect ;-)
> (Either that or quote "The Cornflowers" again.)
> Ian
>
>
> On 8/13/05, Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
>> On 13 Aug 2005 at 8:32, Platt Holden wrote:
>> Now if you want to talk about the influence of Hollywood per Pirsig
>> and the way directors, producers and writers slip leftist propaganda
>> into movies, I'm all ears.
>>
>> msh:
>> Ok. Gimme an example of leftist propaganda in a "Hollywood" movie.
>> Please include quotes and references. For every example you come up
>> with, I'll find a hundred supporting anti-labor or military jingoist
>> bullshit like "On the Waterfront", "The Green Berets" or, more
>> recently, "Hanoi Hilton", "Top Gun," "Red Dawn" or anything written
>> by Tom Clancy, or just about anything starring Sylvester Stallone,
>> Bruce Willis, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
>>
>> As you say, bring it on. This will be fun. I love da movies. I
>> love books more, but movies, apparently, are more accessible to
>> people who haven't figgered out how to get a library card.
>>
>> Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
>> --
>> InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors
>> Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983
>> Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com
>>
>> "Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer, sex
>> raises some pretty interesting questions."
>>
>> -- Woody Allen
>>
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