RE: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

From: Case (Case@iSpots.com)
Date: Wed Nov 30 2005 - 14:32:50 GMT

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    [Case]
    Which leads back to the fundemental question: Why is there something instead
    of nothing?
    I maintain that the first axiom is: Stuff happens.

    Rebecca:
    Does Stuff have to exist before something happens to it?

    [Case]
    Yes, but once it does, it's Katie bar the door.

    [Rebecca]
    Furthermore:
    The difference between fortune tellers and priests is that the legitimacy
    (degree to which people will believe what you're saying is true) of priests
    is institutionalized whereas the legitimacy of fortune tellers is not (an
    institutionalized fortune teller is called an oracle).

    [Case]
    Pirsig talks about this tension in the zuni brujo passages:

    "Although in many primitive cultures there is a recognized division of
    function between priests and shamans, in the more highly developed cultures
    in which cults have become strongly organized churches, the priesthood
    fights an unrelenting war against shamans . . . Priests work in a rigorously
    structured hierarchy fixed in a firm set of traditions. Their power comes
    from and is vested in the organization itself. They constitute a religious
    bureaucracy.
    Shamans, on the other hand, are arrant individualists. Each is on his own,
    undisciplined by bureaucratic control; hence a shaman is always a threat to
    the order of the organized church. In the view of the priests they are
    presumptive pretenders. "

    There is a huge tension between priest and prophets in the Old Testament.
    The priests held the temple and the prophets mostly came from the north. The
    split between them came directly after Solomon's reign when the nation split
    up into north and south. When Jesus threw the money changers out of the
    temple it may have been the last act in a very long play.

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