Re: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

From: David M (davidint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sat Dec 03 2005 - 21:12:42 GMT

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    Case

    I say: some order in general disorder.
    We have to date overly ignored the disorder,
    but some order remains.

    DM

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    > [DM]
    > Hi Case
    >
    > I disagree, if there was not any movement directed towards quality we
    > would
    > live in chaos and not a universe.
    >
    > [Case]
    > I think we live in a chaotic universe. So, I guess it is fair to say we
    > disagree.
    >
    >> [DM]
    >> It looked like you did not get my point but then you got better....
    >>
    >> My point of course is that prior to selection or order there has to be an
    >> underlying infinity and that this assumption is ignored in all SQ seeking
    >> theories. Or in other words DQ prior to SQ as you say. I quite like the
    >> idea
    >> that DQ
    >> (infinity) has to withdraw to allow SQ (finity) to exist.
    >>
    >> [Case]
    >> Well, actually I would say that Quality is the underlying infinite and
    >> that
    >> DQ and SQ emerge as the interplay of order and chaos. I think calling the
    >> "concept of change" SQ leads nowhere and means nothing.
    >>
    >> [DM to Platt:]
    >> A valid point I think, therefore we live in a universe that has been
    >> taking
    >> a specific rather than a random walk into the possible, seeking quality.
    >>
    >> [Case]
    >> The walk appears specific because it has been taken. Retracing the step
    >> leads down a twisting trail of colliding circumstances and collapsing
    >> probabilities.
    >>
    >>
    >>
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