Re: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

From: David M (davidint@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Sat Dec 03 2005 - 21:15:33 GMT

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    Rebecca

    My Heidegger essay link posted last month points
    out the need for nothing if there is be be
    anything.

    DM

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Rebecca Temmer
      To: moq_discuss@moq.org
      Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:12 PM
      Subject: Re: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

      David,

      I'd say the only thing that doesn't have quality is nothing.
      Isn't chaos something...?
      Chaos, IMO, is low quality stuff...

      Stuff happens... then other stuff happens... and other stuff... and then the chicken crosses the road :)

      Rebecca

      On 11/29/05, David M <davidint@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
        Hi Case

        I disagree, if there was not any movement
        directed towards quality we would live in chaos
        and not a universe.

        Regards
        DM

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Case" < Case@ispots.com>
        To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
        Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:31 PM
        Subject: RE: MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

    > [DM]
    > It looked like you did not get my point but then you got better....
    >
    > My point of course is that prior to selection or order there has to be an
    > underlying infinity and that this assumption is ignored in all SQ seeking
    > theories. Or in other words DQ prior to SQ as you say. I quite like the
    > idea
    > that DQ
    > (infinity) has to withdraw to allow SQ (finity) to exist.
    >
    > [Case]
    > Well, actually I would say that Quality is the underlying infinite and
    > that
    > DQ and SQ emerge as the interplay of order and chaos. I think calling the
    > "concept of change" SQ leads nowhere and means nothing.
    >
    > [DM to Platt:]
    > A valid point I think, therefore we live in a universe that has been
    > taking
    > a specific rather than a random walk into the possible, seeking quality.
    >
    > [Case]
    > The walk appears specific because it has been taken. Retracing the step
    > leads down a twisting trail of colliding circumstances and collapsing
    > probabilities.
    >
    >
    >
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