Re: MD Barfield's version of the third and fourth levels

From: Scott R (
Date: Sat Apr 19 2003 - 16:37:32 BST

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    Ok, I'll give it a shot, but it will take a while. In the meantime, here's
    my original post on Barfield, which kind of sets out some conclusions, so I
    will try at some point to give the argumenatation that leads to them

    Here are a couple of other essays on Barfield:

    (sorry, you'll probably need to stitch the above URL back together)

    - Scott

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Buchanan" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:59 PM
    Subject: MD Barfield's version of the third and fourth levels

    > Scott,
    > You wrote 17 Mar 2003:
    > My position is that Barfield has a much more thorough analysis of the
    > difference between what Pirsig calls the social and intellectual levels
    > Pirsig does, and that without this analysis one cannot fully understand
    > Hence the debates on this forum on what the intellectual level is. As I
    > said, Barfield nailed this, while Pirsig is less definitive.
    > dmb asks:
    > Please, give us some details. Give us quotes, explanations, and
    > Please. I'm convinced that most of what Pirsig says can be investigated in
    > greater detail elsewhere. Bringing this detail into the discussion not
    > offers of kind of confirmation or verification, but also provides a
    > richer picture of the MOQ. Bust up, dude. Throw some cash in the hate.
    > Thanks in advance.

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