From: Paul Turner (paulj.turner@ntlworld.com)
Date: Tue Sep 16 2003 - 12:56:47 BST
Hi Matt and all
Paul said:
In a nutshell, it seems to me that trying to bring Coleridge/Barfield
and Pirsig together doesn't work and doesn't help in understanding the
vocabulary of either.
Scott said:
I think I agree.
Matt said:
Ah, poo poo on you both! I say, bring together whoever you like and see
if anything interesting pops out. And, I would say at least on the
surface, something interesting can be pulled out of Pirsig-Coleridge or
Pirsig-Barfield colligations. Scott's been pulling around Barfield long
enough for me to think so.
Paul:
Matt, you've convinced me that these discussions are not really what I
am looking for right now. This and your other post...
"I could point to all the places I talk about Pirsig. I could point to
all the places that others do not. I could point out that "Pirsigian"
isn't the name of a language and that, even if it was, nobody has ever
spoken it here, that a Pirsigian vocabulary, like a Rortyan vocabulary,
simply refers to a short list of idiosyncratic terms that need a lot of
other common terms to be supported in any meaningful way. I could do
that, but I won't because I think I've taken all of those tacts.
Instead, I'm going to answer that I've come to discuss philosophy with
other philosophy lovers. This site provides a space. Don't like it?
Don't listen in, change the channel, walk out of the room, do all the
other things people do to not take part in a conversation: delete the
e-mail."
...has finally helped me see that this has become more of a general
philosophy forum than a site to discuss Pirsig's metaphysics in depth
and in its own vocabulary and definitions as provided by the author.
Indeed, it seems that the idea of agreeing on the meaning of MOQ
vocabulary and definitions has been generally declared either impossible
or even undesirable.
So, as I have no other pet philosophy project or alternative MOQ
interpretation to discuss, it seems I've little to add to these
discussions other than trying to disentangle and [as you point out]
stifle the interpretations and syntheses of others.
I think it's time to lurk for a while...
Paul
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