From: abahn@comcast.net
Date: Tue Sep 23 2003 - 15:17:26 BST
Platt,
Ok, I see it's like the absolute, "there are no absolutes," or having no
tolerance for intolerance. I am not sure why you think it is insightful to
point these contradictions out. They are trivial and really don't point to a
hole in someones argument. You may as well tell someone to just give up on
discussion altogether. These contradictions are inherent in our language.
Andy
> Andy,
>
> > You said Matt made this assertion: "that the state shouldn't interfere
> > in a person's "self-creation" and in the next breath says that
> > philosophy should stay out of politics. Apparently these kinds of
> > contradictions are accepted without a blink of an eye by Rorty fans."
> >
> > Andy: OK, I am a Rorty fan. So maybe I just don't see it, but where is
> > the contradiction?
>
> Matt's assertion that the state should not interfere in a person's self-
> creation is a philosophical statement about the proper role of
> government. Politics is about government. So he brings philosophy into
> politics where he says it doesn't belong. It's hard, if not impossible,
> to escape philosophy.
>
> It's like Matt's stating on one hand that Rorty is against universal,
> fundamental principles and then in the next breath stating as a
> universal, fundamental principle that "cruelty is the worse thing one
> can do."
>
> Of course, if you don't care about logic and rational discourse, such
> contradictions are ignored with a shrug. You've no doubt heard of the
> supposed evils of "logocentrism," the cruel intellectual position that
> white protestant European males use to maintain positions of power.
> The feminists are large on that point of view, and it seems Rorty is on
> board with them with his universal of no uninversals.
>
> But, we digress from the MOQ where I think we can find much agreement.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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