Re: MD economics of want and greed 6

From: David MOREY (
Date: Fri Oct 31 2003 - 18:24:47 GMT

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    Nice post, in UK more people seem to be putting their life
    before their work, much inequality still, but for many they have the
    things they want now, what next? are we going to seem some more
    focus on quality? We can hope! I so hate our present education system,
    SOM non-thinking all the way down!

    David M
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "August West" <>
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    Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:51 PM
    Subject: Re: MD economics of want and greed 6

    > Wim,
    > in your friendly greeting you state:
    > > The type of want that is bred by quaternary economy,
    > > not to be brainwashed
    > > into wanting what other people
    > > want you to want, can only be satisfied by educating
    > > people to grow more
    > > complex identities and be more conscious of what we
    > > do.
    > This is what we are calling the information age.
    > information and communication between people is
    > growing. People communicating is the "hip" thing to
    > do in this age. (Diggin' this email?) If you can
    > trust your information and everyone is buying.. it
    > would make the most sense to buy... buying stocks in
    > with the global market in the shape it is in right
    > now, I think is foolish.. this is a time of change...
    > its not the quaterly market at all... that system
    > worked very fine in the 90's when the information age
    > blossomed.. people are in my opinion waiting for the
    > next thing.. the day that comes.. is the ideal time to
    > buy... before they do!!!
    > I think there is a lot of media hype about how poor
    > the economy in America is... people aren't buying what
    > they used to.. the market changed.. manufaturing jobs
    > are moving...(DQ..ACE!!!).. and I think it should
    > continue to change... this will lead us to a new path
    > and keep us on top.. the death of the old way is
    > always rough...
    > More complex idenities dosen't make big bucks.. and
    > that's the point of money ain't it?.. to run a
    > sucessful buisness and make money? ... ehhh.. a stroke
    > of good, a stroke of bad... money makes money .. are
    > you good money or bad money..??
    > I do, however, strongly agree with your point:
    > > Educational institutions as we know them now won't
    > > do, however.
    > > At present educational
    > > institutions are among the institutions most
    > > characterized by the
    > > distinction between leaders (teachers) and followers
    > > (pupils). They are much
    > > better at making people accept brainwashing and
    > > become habitual 'followers'
    > > than at helping them to do without. We will have to
    > > re-invent 'education' if
    > > we want it to free people from brainwashing.
    > In America, there seems to be an enormous amount of
    > dependence of standarized testing. Now what happens
    > here is that the teacher finds his or her self
    > teaching to a test instead of teaching out of passion
    > for a subject area, or creating a class. They are
    > instead forced to meet criteria.. becasue they are
    > being judged on how well their pupils perform on a
    > test..
    > There also seems to be a large dependence on
    > memorazation tactics than on congative styles..
    > memorization is not really learning its a tactic to
    > get pupils to pass a test. I don't know alot of the
    > things I learned in High School, but I know tons of
    > things from books I've read on my own or from
    > experiences I've had in "the real world".. which has a
    > lot to do with why I dropped out and went to college
    > instead. The people with the power to change this..
    > the New York State Board of Regents, in my case don't
    > care about my situation.. they want it this way.. it
    > helps thier economic situation.. the teachers are
    > followers too...
    > Thoughts?
    > -Augie
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