From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Mar 08 2004 - 18:51:00 GMT
Hi Poot
Yes, more time to think, to train and study,
to get off of our addictions, to spend time
bringing up our children better, etc.
I am sure most people would agree.
So why can't we have what we want?
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Poot" <mattpoot@hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: MD Beyond Liberalism?
> Hello,
>
> I do not have much time at this point (going to work in 15 min).
>
> DMB quoted: The problem is with intellect itself. (SOM) In its
> > historical struggle to free itself from society, intellect has gone past
> the
> > independence it sought and become disconnected, disassociated and
divorced
> > from its parent level. Scientific materialism has gutted the world and
> left
> > it devoid of spirit, morals and the like
>
> Concerning death:
> Poot: Yes, I would call this being "Desensitized". However, I think that
> some who are completely desensitized in some areas, are sensitized in
> others. I think that I have been thoroughly desensitized in the course of
> my brief life (in some aspects). There were points in time, in which I
> cared more, but then didn't care, and now I want to care. As an example,
I
> use Death. Man has had a fascination ...or obsession would be a better
> word... with death for as long as time can remember. This is why we have
> "Heroes", "Martyrs" and the like. At first, when I used to watch the
daily
> news when the media was really focused on the palestinian/Israeli conflict
> (when netnyahu was around), and you would see, night after night, day
after
> day, TOP STORY: *** people killed on the gaza strip, etc. At first you
> think " oh my god! what the hell is going on!?" But then, after seeing
> this repeatdly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly,
repeatedly,
> it just made me sort of....numb....to caring at all about it. Then I hear
> about all of the drive-by's, gangs, etc. I don't really care any more
> about people dying, which seems to me to be a horrible thing , to be so
> apathetic.
>
> But yet, I care so strongly about other things, such as this subject which
> we are discussing. ???
>
> Concerning the reduction of work: I absolutely, positively, agree with
> this.
>
> There is NOTHING I can think of more, which is inhibiting the development
of
> my life, other than money, and work. (symbiotic relationship). My
dream
> right now, is at serious risk of being crushed into dust, because of
money,
> and work.
>
> I can not think of a purpose of most of the work we do. We have millions
> (billions?) of pe0ple, where the work they do serves only one purpose :
To
> inhibit the development of mankind, by enforcing the absolutely static.
>
> They should make laws not to inhibit, but to nourish development (in all
> forms: being: technological: intellectual: societal: etc.).
>
> I have to go, sorry.
>
> DM: level. I think that mal-functioning aspects of the social level,
> > such as inequality and the failure to reduce working hours,
> > is making progress currently impossible.
>
> matt
>
>
> P.S This is why (1 reason) I wanted to start the chat sessions....so we
> could discuss this issue.
>
>
>
>
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