Re: MF Spiritual practices in the MoQ

From: Dario MOQ (dario_moq@growingman.com)
Date: Tue Aug 09 2005 - 13:54:35 BST

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    Hi Sam (and all),

    just a few comments on your contribution...

    At 11:50 AM 9/08/2005, Sam Norton wrote:
    >Firstly, as a rough rule of thumb, why don't we take 'religion' to mean
    >those things that apply to the third level social patterns, and
    >'spirituality' that refer to cultivating an openness to DQ. That leaves the
    >fourth level open, and ambiguous between them, but it will probably save a
    >lot of semantic arguments.

    Agreed. Just a clarification:
    I was suggesting to see spirituality as a fifth level.
    Are you saying that would "close" the fourth level ? In what way?

    >The MoQ describes four levels of existence, in an increasing hierarchy of
    >Quality.

    I was lead to believe the levels are a hierarchy based on evolution, with
    Quality, both SQ and DQ, giving impulse to the evolution at all levels.

    >The point is to rise up the levels. [For the consciousness to rise? For the
    >soul to rise? To follow DQ? Not sure how to explain this bit in 'official'
    >MoQ but it seems necessary to answer the question]

    Perhaps I'm stating the obvious (and I aware of my limited knowledge here),
    but it seems to me that we (I) need to find a place/definition for
    spirituality within the MoQ first.

    >Practices which send the lower levels to sleep, and which cultivate
    >awareness of DQ, are those congruous with the MoQ.

    I am not sure I fully understand. Are you saying that to be aware of DQ is
    a spiritual activity?

    Dario

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