Hugo Fjelsted Alroe (alroe@vip.cybercity.dk)
Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:11:53 +0100
Ken, you wrote:
>Hugo,
> If you are not familiar with it, a book by James Gleick, 'Chaos
>(Deterministic Disorder)', will make your point for your nicely.
> In the words of Gleick, "Chaos shows how a purposeless flow of energy can
>wash life and consciousness into the world."
Thanks for the reference Ken, I believe I read it a while back. I do not
put the same weight on chaos as you seem to do, exactly because it is a
deterministic phenomenon. But then again, perhaps chaos is another link
between 'determinism' and 'indeterminism' than the one I have in mind, - I
will have to revisit the issue.
> If I understand your position correctly you are saying that Dynamic
>Quality is bounded by the Static Patterns of Value because Dynamic Quality
>is dependent on those SPOVs for its preconditioning and thus is not
>entirely a free agent. I think I also agree with Doug that there is no
>upper limit on either static quality (SPOVs) or Dynamic Quality.
Yes, I agree with you that Doug's view and my view above are not uncompatible.
> I looked at one of your early (to me) posts to Martin I believe, and I
>agree with you that given the starting point of the universe our presence
>here is almost, or is, a foregone conclusion.
Well, I am not sure I would put it that strong, but the drift towards
complexity is definitely just as natural as (and more basic than) the
thermodynamic drift towards homogeneity.
Regards
Hugo
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