Bodvar Skutvik (skutvik@online.no)
Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:25:42 +0100
Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:58:59 -0500
Maggie Hettinger
Wrote
> peter@pzw1.resnet.cornell.edu wrote:
> > i've been lurking due to large amounts of schoolwork, but i had an
> > epiphany today:
> > patterns are all that exist!! any THING is just a configuration of
> > other patterns - this is what i've known all along but didn't really
> > internalize!
> > sorry to sound to childish, but this is really great, fun revelation for
> > me... :p
> Yes! It is great. I remember when it happened to me, but I got it
> directly from reading Lila. I can almost see the page in front of me.
> If you don't mind my asking, do you know what triggered this for you? I'm
> curious about what it takes to make the shift.
Hi Peter and Maggie.
Firstly, educate me on the 'epiphany' term. My dictionary only gives
"commemoration of the magis (The three wise men) arriving in
Bethlehem at Jesus' birth), but you - natives - use it in a
revelation or insight sense.
Peter, your insight reminded me so of my own "Mind at the end.."
epiphany back in the early sixties. It was shortly that all of
reality was LANGUAGE. It was immensely strong and convincing, but
simultaneously going against reason, and this bothered (a very weak
description; "driving me mad" is more like it) me greatly for more
than ten years - until I came across ZMM. I join Maggie in her
request that you try to unravel your line of thought.
Maggie, this paragraph from your reply to Julie made my day:
> And then there are other times when I wonder whether the reason I
> can't figure out what's going on in the LS subject-object
> conversation is because I simply can't go back to that particular
> branch of pre-Pirsig thinking. It was never a big part of my
> background or training, and it seems to take a lot of effort to
> understand it now.
Particularly the sentence about pre-Pirsig thinking struck me. Yes,
now I really must STRUAIN (!) my mind to put myself into that
position - it seems so remote and limited.
Thank you both and ------Welcome Julie!! - if you see this.
Bo
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