Jonathan, you scoundrel, you've forced me to cross post! But seriously, I
thought this was a pretty good answer to your question. Since you've asked
again, I thought I'd just bring it over here....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Buchanan [SMTP:DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:52 PM
> To: 'moq_focus@moq.org'
> Subject: RE: MF first things first
>
>
> JM finds the teepee scene dull, saying "There's no detail, no
> colour". And i guess that's just a matter of opinion. Personally, I wish
> he'd gone into much more detail about havingg sex with Lila. I love the
> dirty parts best. But seriously, JM says the bar scene is more exciting
> and
> "much more vivid" and calls it "Pirsig's other description of a
> drug-related
> ceremony". And here's where I start to have trouble..
>
> You really can't compare beer with peyote. And normally I'd like to
> give people a break on this because peyote use is pretty rare and most
> folks
> just don't know much about it.
> But we're supposed to have read Lila before coming to this forum and
> we just re-read the first three chapters, where the distinctions are so
> clear and detailed. Even the details of the setting and atmosphere of
> those
> two contrasting chapters tell abou the differences...
>
> In the teepee he felt at home, felt connected to the people there,
> felt he discovered his secret other half, he really loved the songs,
> warmed
> by the friendship and the fire and spun an intellectual web wider than
> ever
> before as his mind turned to complex realities and transcendental....where
> something new opened up.
>
> At the bar he was motivated by biology, which doesn't care about how
> loud, rude, tacky or fake she is. There's conflict with "that bitch
> Debbie"
> and the Victorian moralizer doesn't like it much either. The captain wakes
> full of self-contempt and confusion. He has to scramble across a cold,
> dark
> and slippery deck just to get his clothes back on and light a fire. He has
> to put construction of the MOQ on hold until he gets rid of her.
>
> The difference between the teepee and bar scenes? Oh, let me count
> the ways...
>
> DMB
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