Jeff,
I'll leave logical positivism to someone more qualified but I can tell
youthat cultural relativism is pretty much what it sounds like. With the
theory of relativity Einstein said that there is not really any up or down
in the universe, it all depends on where you stand. Cultural relativism is
the moral equivalent--- there is no wrong or right in the universe, it all
depends on where you stand... quite contrary to MoQ.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Preece <nick_hmac@hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1:39 PM
Subject: MD More definitions
> >Dear Nick,
> > As a newcomer to this list, I'm at a loss to comprehend all of the
> >abbreviations used by the "old timers." Heck, I don't even know what moq
> >means.
> "Old Timer"?!? I'm not even 30 yet, don't call me an old timer!
> I see there's been an excellant response to the pleas for explanations of
> the acronyms, that should be OK now.
>
> Similarly, can anyone break down "logical positivism" and "cultural
> relativism" into digestable chunks ?
>
> >"We should take care not to make the intellect our God; it has, of
> >course, powerful muscles, but no personality."-Albert Einstein
> >"Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit."-Saint-Exupery
> >"A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that
> >uses it."-Rabindranath Tagore
> > Cheers,
> > Jeff
> Excellant quotes
>
> Can I misquote Fritjof Capra
> _Mysticism is something you do - there's a limit to how much can be gained
> from thinking about it_
> IMHO Pirsig is thinking about it rather than doing it. He presents a
> perfectly workable way of rationalising [as far as I know all] things
which
> allows it to be a viable (by Capras axioms) upgrade to the existing
> scientific way of rationalising things - namely SOM.. If the world of
> science acknowledges the shift from SOM to a mystical interpretation of
> reality, then in doing so it encourages "doing mysticism" and all that
that
> implies.
>
> IMHO the money worries expressed in recent postings come under the
Buddhist
> view of craving. Its simply an inefficient way of satisfying our desire to
> be happy, a point which becomes clearer when you consider the 'unself'
view
> of individuality.
> Pirsig would have benifited from not craving intellectual satisfaction.
>
> >Overthinking becomes tedious, and delivers little of substance. Not
> >thinking at
> >all is no solution. The world is full of gullible innocents who would not
> >be
> >harmed by a little critical thought. But wisdom is not having a 'you
beaut'
> >metaphysics that explains everything. And that's the limitation of
> >endlessly
> >discussing Pirsig's MOQ. Isn't anyone else tired?
>
> I'm not tired yet, but its well worth sitting back and pegging out the
> priorities. I don't know how much more we need to know about the subtle
> differences that can be observed in the world other than the fact that it
> could well go on for ever. The big issues, as per the opening chapters of
> ZAMM, are the state of the moral of the masses - arguably fuelled by the
> belief that happiness comes from things which are bought but not
afforded -
> and the corporate giants which are out of control and causing too much
> damage.
>
>
>
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