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From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness
In a message dated 7/2/02 3:56:53 AM GMT Daylight Time, jhmau@sbcglobal.net writes:
skutvik July 01, 9:20
Bo says: NOTA BENE.
>Here I part company with most of the discussers who believe that S/O is an
intellectual
>pattern that can be replaced by another (better) one, but I can't for the
life of me understand
>what is intellect's (value) except for the S/O, and how it can mend itself
in such a
>fundamental way. It is as if LIFE suddenly would become DEATH. I have asked
for a
>definition of it, but none such has been presented without vague
suggestions about "self-
>reflection" and "thinking" and such which are the very halfs of the
"consciousness" variants
>mentioned above ...which is playing straight into the hands of Intellect.
end of NB
Hi Bo,
Do you feel subjects and objects are the result of cultural conditioning?
If so, i agree.
Then intellect may use cultural conditioning for abstract speculation, thus intellect can be seen to be seriously influenced by cultural patterns.
If we wish to erode subjects and objects, it would appear we must orient our culture towards value?
Hi Squonk and all:
Frank Herbert in Destination Void describes awareness as a door with a threshold which a person can raise or lower to keep things out or let them pass. Cultural conditioning could certainly act as a buffer in the threshold. Subjects and objects, or patterns of value could seem to be equally a part of that buffer.
Joe
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