Hi Andre,
I agree with Squonk & Platt. Mind is a perfectly good MOQ term.
----- Original Message -----
From: André <psytrancekid@yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness
> --- SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated
> 7/2/02 8:51:02 PM GMT Daylight
> > Time, pholden@sc.rr.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > I need not remind you (but I will anyway) that
> > "mind" is a perfectly
> > > legitimate word in the MOQ lexicon. Pirsig uses it
> > frequently in LILA and
> > > speaks of the "intelligence of the mind,"
> > referring to the intellectual
> > > level.
> > >
> > > Platt
> > >
> >
> > Hellooooo!
> > Pirsig does indeed use terms such as mind and
> > substance but with proviso?
> > Mind becomes a jungle of static patterning and
> > substance becomes Inorganic
> > patterning.
> > Pirsig's use of the term mind agrees with those who
> > have been arguing that it
> > is culturally derived.
> >
> > The central problem is that substance metaphysics
> > after Descartes is a two
> > tier metaphysics. Now we have a four tier
> > metaphysics and mind is a more
> > subtle proposition in the MOQ.
> >
> > Squonk.
> >
>
> Squonk + Platt,
>
> I reckon mind is a collective noun. Like flock and
> pride. i.e. A flock of geese, a pride of lions, a mind
> of thoughts. No goose, no flock. No thought, no mind.
>
> just a piece of my mind,
> André
>
Gary's Response: The mind is not a collective noun but a singular noun.
Each and every human being has one singular mind. It is the term for our
experience of thinking and being aware. It is our experience of processing
our thoughts, memories, feeling, emotions, and all our sensory events. It
is our sense of awareness and it is our belief that we can have thoughts
that we are not aware of, hence the idea of sub-consciousness and
un-consciousness.
Are you serious when you stated that : "I have no need for a mind in my
metaphysics yet. If I find a good candidate referent for the word "mind",
you'll be the first to know. what do I know :) André
What term would you use to replace 'mind'?
Gary
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