In a message dated 7/6/02 9:24:23 PM GMT Daylight Time,
DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org writes:
> Squonk asked:
> Is it just me? Or are any other members of the org a tad worried about the
> continuing rise of religious fundamentalism in the USA?
>
> [David Buchanan]
> No, you're not the only one worried about the rise of fundamentalism. I'd
> only expand on your concerns. Fundamentalism is not the only reactionary
> movement that troubles me and its not just an American problem. Reactionary
> movements are political as well as religious and the conflict is a global
> problem, as WW2 and Islamic terrorism clearly shows. The conflict is not
> just about human origins, its also about humanity's continued evolution.
> And all of this is essentially about the conflict between social and
> intellectual values. That's why it is so very important to be able to
> distinquish between the 3rd and 4th level values. Its a moral battle. Those
> who fail to understand this distinction can too easily find themselves on
> the side of evil. These third level warriors talk about morality until
> they're blue in the face and yet, ironically, they are on the side of
> regression. They are not just opposed to teaching Darwinism, which is only
> the central organizing idea of all the biological sciences, they're
> apparently opposed to their own evolution and to humanity's progress toward
> the divine. In their own terms, they are Satan's agents on Earth.
>
> Further, this disease has infected the world's only global thermo-nuclear
> empire. In recent weeks the USA has joined forces with some of the most
> backward theocracies and voted against UN resolutions that would save
> millions of lives. Our Attorney General has hidden lady justice under a
> burka, both literally and figuratively. Our President thinks he should have
> unchecked authority to do whatever he wants until HE decides the war is
> over and all the "evildoers" are all gone. The public is untroubled that
> this war means secret searches, unlimited detentions without evidence or
> withour charges being brought, military tribunals and seems to believe that
> God loves us more than everybody else. We're not just talking about a few
> nutty bible-thumpers. Its big. We're talking about the medieval dorks who
> direct the military and enforce our laws. And a giant chunk of the
> population is perfectly happy about all this. 87% don't mind pledging
> alligence to this nation, UNDER GOD. And in spite of the fact that our
> President is a weak-minded dolt who can barely speak his own language, he
> is very popular. That's all pretty damn scary.
>
> Again, this is how the battle between 3rd and 4th level manifests itself in
> the real world. Its critical to determine which side you're on. Its not
> just an academic exercise, you know. It matters quite alot.
>
>
Hi David,
My word!
A footprint in the sand!
I was all but beginning to think this forum had become a haven for Wilber
fanatics!
Oh thank you!
A battle between patterns of value.
Indeed.
And i rather hoped this forum would be doing so much more to promote quality?
Instead, one spends one's time corresponding with people who hardly appear to
have quality on their radar?
Education may be an answer?
Not indoctrination or, 'Training for life style selection' or whatever, but
education to enable people to THINK FOR THEMSELVES?
To ask questions?
To challenge!
To WANT to learn and be shown quality.
All the best,
Squonk.
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