Squonk said:
Are there any in this forum who, like me, see Wilber as a self promoting,
self serving, self aggrandising charlatan?
I cannot help but place Wilber and T Lobsang Rampa in the same area?
Know what i mean?
[David Buchanan]
No. I honestly don't know what you mean. What prompts you to attack the guy
personally? And how are his personal flaws relevant to the validity of the
ideas presented in his books? Have you ever read any of his books? You sound
like a jilted lover here, not a philosopher.
I mean, Picasso was a real asshole, but the man could paint. People working
in these upper realms can't rightly be judged in terms of a popularity
contest. You know what I mean? The only relevant judgements are about the
ideas, not the man. I'm surprized you would stoop to this kind of personal
attack. You're usually so civilized.
Here's a little story.....
When I was on vacation last month. I met Wilber's former brother-in-law, a
shaggy lawyer. All it took was the mention of his name. (Somebody asked
what I was reading.) The former brother-in-law turned red in the face and
went on a rant that was filled with all kinds of hostility, profanity,
insults and shouting. I'd never heard such a ferocious stream of insults.
Then I asked the guy if he'd ever read anything by Ken Wilber. He answered
"no" and just walked away. Hearing all that nastiness didn't change my
opinion of KW's books, but it was pretty hard to take the insulter
seriously. He'd made a fool of himself. I was curious to find out what upset
the guy so much, but he ranted in such a way that I was too frightened. I
honestly thought the lawyer might become violent. He doesn't like the man
who wrote the book that I was reading so much that I was afraid. (He was a
big guy) But since there is an ocean between us, I feel safe enough to
ask.... What makes you think Wilber is a charlatan?
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