Hi David & Squad,
David 1/14/99:
> So when you ask if dreams get the bio
> level more in touch with DQ, I have to say no. The bio level is
already
> in contact with DQ, but your intellect doesn't know that. So what
dreams
> do is try to tell the intellect what the body and the unconscious
mind
> already know. Dreams are messages from the unconscious mind, which
is in
> direct contact with DQ.
Whoa! Lets backup a minute here! I don't see any reason to think
that the other three levels are any more in contact with DQ than the
intellect. They're all Static levels after all. If the intellect is
not
listening to DQ it's because it has the *freedom* to choose not to.
The
intellect is the first level that's actually has any choice about
whether
it will "listen to" DQ or not. It seems to me that the intellectual
level
is all about choice. Choice being a new static latch in the
Universe.
And along with that freedom of choice also comes the freedom to
ignore
it's creator - Dynamic Quality.
I don't think the unconscious mind has a lock on DQ. Instead I see
the unconscious mind as our connection with the other Static levels
coexisting in us. It *may* be the intellectual conduit we have for
hearing from the social mythos. It may also just be a manifestation
of
what's happening in our brain's "down-time". That is, just an
artifact of
forming or strengthening new neural connections based on new
information
acquired while awake. I don't find it particularly helpful to give
the
unconscious exalted status, though it is certainly useful and needed.
> If I understand your point correctly, you're saying that the
> intellect can alter or change patterns in the other three levels.
No, but the intellect can *take sides* and pit one level against
another like what Pirsig describes with the Hippie revolution; siding
with
biology over society, and we all know how that turned out...
Without reduction to chaos, the intellectual level has only the power
to
affect the social level. When intellect takes biology's side against
the
social, the social level looses its protector (the intellectual level
itself) and finds itself fighting a war without any bullets.
I would say the intellect can and does affect the social level and
that our standard mythos can and has changed several times in
recorded history. You didn't answer my question about where the
mythos comes from ;-), but I would submit that its probably from a
deeply buried early form of the social level when it escaped from
biology. Attitudes operate at a higher level within the social, that
is
they are sort of a "layer" on top of the mythos. And I agree that
many of
our attitudes were set by this early mythos. But I also think
attitudes
can pretty easily be changed by the intellectual level, and that when
enough attitude changes become ingrained in a social structure then
they
will ultimately affect the mythos as well.
The mythos is not fixed in stone, but subject to change when enough
attitudes have been accepted that conflict with it. Whew! That took
a
lot out of me! Do you see what I mean?
the Lila squaw,
Mary
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