From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Fri Oct 08 2004 - 04:12:35 BST
Hello Chuck:
Chuck said:
> Is the word "Quality" truly insufficient when relating to the sunset?
Isn't
> the "Wow Moment" an example of dynamic quality or dynamic good and your
> appreciation of the sunset every moment after that initial "Wow Moment"
> simply good static quality?
mel:
That seems to be a reasonable "mapping" of experience as I
understand Pirsig's explanation of MoQ
Chuck said:
> Isn't "Quality" buttressed with "Intellect" just "static quality?"
mel:
To me that seems right. The experiencing of Quality stands
in the present moment , simply as perceived. Intellect may
add it's own resonance and echoes of associational richness,
but always after the fact and as a different experience; that of
embedding the just remembered experience with other
memory.
However, there seems to be two different definitions of
intellect, so to pretend they are the same makes me
guilty of equivocation and lands much of my prior
assertions with Scott in the barn leavings. There may
be some good s#!t, but it is not going in his garden. :-)
Chuck said:
>
> Isn't "what comes before..." simply apriori? That's the "wow moment"
right?
> The cusp of reality? Being in the here and now? Again, that's the
Dynamic
> Quality.
mel:
Hoooo Yah. (Flashbulb)
Chuck said:
>
> It all just makes a big Zen Circle and I get a little dizzy.
>
> Maybe I'm just confused.
>
> Sorry to butt-in.
>
mel:
Lead with your best side, I always do ;-)
Contribute any time...often the participants
in a thread head for the unseen trees that
others on the outside see clearly.
thanks--mel
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