Re: MD Re: Is Morality relative?

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 15 2004 - 14:21:26 GMT

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    Platt, Horse, Absolutists and Non-absolutists alike...

    Perhaps the teaching here is that to the question "Are there absolutes?", the
    only possible answer we can give is "mu"... which Pirsig makes clear is a
    viable and reasoned answer.

    All this talk of absolutes also reminds me of the "law of gravity" part of the
    chatauqua. "So there was this 'absolute', sitting there, having no mass of its
    own, no energy of its own, not in anyone's mind because there wasn't anyone,
    not in space because there was no space either, no anywhere - this 'absolute'
    still existed?"

    Pirsig continues:
    "Laws of nature are human inventions, like ghosts. Laws of logic, of mathematics
    are also human inventions, like ghosts. The whole blessed thing is a human
    invention, including the idea that it 'isn't' a human invention. The world has
    no existence whatsoever outside the human imagination."

    Just some thoughts...

    Arlo

    On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:47:25 +0000, "Platt Holden" wrote:

    > Hi Horse,
    >
    > > . . .in order to state
    > > that something is absolute one needs absolute knowledge.
    >
    > Is this not an absolute truth?
    >
    > > If something is
    > > absolute then it is so in all possible worlds and at all times.
    >
    > Another absolute truth?
    >
    > > Given that
    > > humans do not have this knowledge making such statements is pontless and
    > > without meaning.
    >
    > So it's an absolute truth that making absolute statements is pointless and
    > without meaning?
    >
    > > I suppose Platt will say that this is an absolute
    > > statement but, given the above, this would be incorrect.
    >
    > Run that by mean again. I see two absolute premises and an absolute
    > conclusion.
    >
    > Pray, what am I missing?
    >
    > But more importantly, at this time of year it's well to count one's
    > blessings and give thanks to those who have been special friends
    > throughout the year. Thus, to you for your dedication to making this site
    > available to me and all contributors the MD, my heartfelt thanks and best
    > wishes for a joyful holiday season.
    >
    > Best,
    > Platt
    >
    >
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