Re: MD Re: Is Morality relative?

From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Thu Dec 16 2004 - 01:05:43 GMT

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    Hi Arlo,

    Just wanted to say thanks.

    Chin
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Arlo J. Bensinger" <ajb102@psu.edu>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:21 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Re: Is Morality relative?

    > Platt, Horse, Absolutists and Non-absolutists alike...
    >
    > Perhaps the teaching here is that to the question "Are there absolutes?",
    the
    > only possible answer we can give is "mu"... which Pirsig makes clear is a
    > viable and reasoned answer.
    >
    > All this talk of absolutes also reminds me of the "law of gravity" part of
    the
    > chatauqua. "So there was this 'absolute', sitting there, having no mass of
    its
    > own, no energy of its own, not in anyone's mind because there wasn't
    anyone,
    > not in space because there was no space either, no anywhere - this
    'absolute'
    > still existed?"
    >
    > Pirsig continues:
    > "Laws of nature are human inventions, like ghosts. Laws of logic, of
    mathematics
    > are also human inventions, like ghosts. The whole blessed thing is a human
    > invention, including the idea that it 'isn't' a human invention. The world
    has
    > no existence whatsoever outside the human imagination."
    >
    > Just some thoughts...
    >
    > Arlo
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:47:25 +0000, "Platt Holden" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Horse,
    > >
    > > > . . .in order to state
    > > > that something is absolute one needs absolute knowledge.
    > >
    > > Is this not an absolute truth?
    > >
    > > > If something is
    > > > absolute then it is so in all possible worlds and at all times.
    > >
    > > Another absolute truth?
    > >
    > > > Given that
    > > > humans do not have this knowledge making such statements is pontless
    and
    > > > without meaning.
    > >
    > > So it's an absolute truth that making absolute statements is pointless
    and
    > > without meaning?
    > >
    > > > I suppose Platt will say that this is an absolute
    > > > statement but, given the above, this would be incorrect.
    > >
    > > Run that by mean again. I see two absolute premises and an absolute
    > > conclusion.
    > >
    > > Pray, what am I missing?
    > >
    > > But more importantly, at this time of year it's well to count one's
    > > blessings and give thanks to those who have been special friends
    > > throughout the year. Thus, to you for your dedication to making this
    site
    > > available to me and all contributors the MD, my heartfelt thanks and
    best
    > > wishes for a joyful holiday season.
    > >
    > > Best,
    > > Platt
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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