From: Joao (joaocs@sapo.pt)
Date: Sun Feb 09 2003 - 23:50:34 GMT
> Matt said:
> in a single pattern of beliefs that we might call a "person," they might
> have one
> woven pattern that answers questions about reality and about justice.
Rorty
> suggests that for practical purposes, we keep patterns about reality and
> patterns about justice separate.
>
> Joao said:
> I guess Pirsig wouldn't agree with that. The separations that make sense
are
> between different individuals' or social groups' visions. Not between
> concepts like reality and justice in a single individual. Individual
> intellectual patterns arise from different social level experience. They
are
> inherently separated. But reality and justice are concepts that any
> individual possesses. Its up to each one to keep them separated or to
> integrate them holistically. Zen masters prefer the holistic aproach.
> Western scientists prefer the separated views.
>
> Matt:
> I think you are right here. I think Pirsig is in the business of holding
> reality and justice in a single vision.
>
> To punch up why I follow Rorty in suggesting that, as a practical
> consideration, we keep reality and justice separate when doing politics,
> Zen masters and Nazis prefer the holistic approach and Western scientists
> and citizens of democratic states prefer to seperate them.
>
> Matt
Now that is what I call a hollow statement.
Have fun
Joao
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