From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 16:50:05 BST
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>Erin and all MOQERS:
>
>I saw a great movie on this topic. You should see if you get a chance. I was
>reminded of Pirsig's ideas many times while Watching it. The film is titled
>"MAX" and stars John Cusack. He plays a fictional modern art dealer in
>post-WWI Germany who takes the young Adolf Hitler under his wing. It very
>clearly dramatizes Hilter's hatred of intellectuals and of modernity itself.
>The flick blew me away. BAM!
>
>Erin said:
>Berkeley newspaper defining a conservative... that
>sounds like it may be a bit biased, ya know like
>Rush Limbaugh defining a liberal?
>
>But dmb had already written:
>...........The paper is titled "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social
>>Cognition" and was published in the APA's "Psychological Bulletin". And
>here
>>is the short press release that propelled it into the mass media. Enjoy...
>>
>>http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml
>
>dmb now adds:
>The paper was co-authored by four academic professionals, not a newspaper.
>Also the link does not take you to a newspaper, only a press release.
>
>Erin said:
>sarcastically and defensively yours,
>as to whether you can classify me as a conservative or liberal I'm
>going to let you get to know me more:-)
>
>dmb says:
>Since you are apparently offended by criticisms of conservatism, I think it
>is safe to assume that you personally identify to some extent. And if you
>considered yourself a liberal, you'd be thrilled and interested instead of
>irritated and dismissive. Let me guess...
>
>Thanks,
>dmb
>
Nope, I lean toward the left my friend. I am not offended by criticisms of
conservatism. But there is criticism and there are karma dumps.
Pirsig: "Another
immoral way of killing the static patterns is to pass the patterns to
someone else, in what Phaedrus called a "karma dump." You invent a devil
group, Jews or blacks or whites or capitalists or communists-it doesn't
matter -then say that group is responsible for all your suffering, and then
hate it and try to destroy it. On a daily personal level everyone has things
or people they hate and blame for their suffering and this hatred and blame
brings a kind of relief.' "
Erin
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