From: Matt poot (mattpoot@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 31 2004 - 03:58:58 GMT
I don't know how many of you are familliar with Sensory Deprivation, and if
you are not, please proceed to
http://kwiclan.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=41&highlight . This could
prove to be quite useful to all. Mind you, it was written quite awhile ago
(1.5 years), and I have not reviewed it since.
It may not seem as I am dealing with quality(forum rules?), but by the end,
I will. I also am looking for help, comments, and criticism to form this
theory into something. Whether it just ends up a theory, which is quite
likely, I would never-the-less like to discuss it openly with others, as my
friends can't currently provide much help.
Anyways, for those who are aware of what sensory deprivation is, I will draw
out the early developments of an idea that came to me, during my time in the
tank. This idea relates how we communicate with eachother, but it focuses
more how we go about thinking to ourselves, our internal dialogue.
Now, when we are conciously thinking to ourselves about anything, we (at
least I) think in words/language. For example , if I was thinking to myself
about writing this post, I think "Now, what should I put next?" or "Does
this make sense?". It does not have to be a question, but you see my point.
Anyways, as I was floating in this tank with little (sometimes nothing) to
distract my mind, I noticed how slow I was actually conducting my inner
dialogue. I was (and still am) thinking at what would be considered, a
rapid conversation rate. However, considering the ability of our brains, I
know this is nothing.
What I then thought about at that point was "how could I speed up my
thoughts?" not that slow is bad, which it definitely is not, but what I mean
to say, is could it be possible to raise my level of thought process to a
higher eschelon. How? well......my answer to this isn't exactly concrete,
and its probability is unknown for individuals, and unlikely for the masses.
I thought/think that if we were to somehow 'eliminate' the use of words in
our thoughts. Or at least reduce them. Anyways, words are just analagous to
each other. In our mythos, we are taught to speak, read and write as soon
as we can. So, as a result of this, all of our thoughts are in words. All
of these analogies, piled up onto eachother, just give a misrepresentation
of true meaning. I believe that to truly understand, one must use feelings
and non-verbal thoughts, as opposed to words. I would like to exclude
nouns, but at this point, I dont know if I could. I wonder whether
To explain the relation of this to quality is now the important glue to
this idea however. Quality, being the source, would be the language.
Before I recognized Quality better , I could not really put any semi-solid
thesis together.
To demonstate the difference between word and feeling, I use an example such
as this. A person (lets just call them 'Jake') who is purchasing a used
motorcycle from someone they dont know, goes to see it in person. When they
get there, the bike doesn't look too bad in appearance. However, once the
seller goes to turn the ignition key, the bike doesnt start(which can happen
sometimes). After a few times, he manages to get the bike started, and
right off the bat, you can hear the engine rattling and sputtering, with a
strange metallic grinding sound.
The first thing that comes into Jakes mind, immediately after these brief
occurences is not the words "wow...this bike is messed up", but rather an
undefinable mix of feelings welling up from the sub/pre-concious, , that in
one instant , would take paragraphs to say(even more perhaps, depending on
how well educated Jake is with motorcycle maintenance;).
Those feelings that precede are what count. Perhaps this is the
pre-concious quality(something like that...can't remember the exact
statement) that Pirsig talks about in ZAMM. I often find myself searching
for appropriate words to explain my feelings, as we all do, and in most
cases, depending on the topic of conversation, find the word inadequate.
Even when I use a few sentences to try and explain, it does little more.
(I have to move quickly here, Im running out of time)
One interesting theory that popped out of this idea, is telepathy. If we
were to one day, reach a stage, where we were not trained to think in words,
and used them only for non-personal uses, than perhaps we will become
telepathic? maybe that would open up the other unused percentage of our
brainpower.
Anyways, I've really got to go, since I have to leave for work in 5 hours.
I hope you all enjoy this topic.
Sincerely,
Matt
P.S. Sorry for the haste in which this was written, perhaps I _should_ have
taken more time.
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