From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Feb 14 2004 - 10:57:20 GMT
Hi
I am quite content to accept your point, static intellectual
forms imply an aid to reaching tthe same insight again, but
perhaps then it is once again dynamic, as Bhaskar points out
every student has to rediscover every science/mathematics
discovery for themselves all over again to understand it. The original
discovery just lays out a quicker less tortuous route, if we are lucky.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: joan vollmann
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: MD Pirsig and Rorty the inadequacies of post modernism
Howdy
Yes that is the answer I expected you to give and thank you for giving it. It does seem so obvious. But it is not obvious to me that mathematical creations are static. The static representation of a mathematical concept (the printed page) is not the math any more than a pile of Spice Girls records and a match is a fire. If I attempt to follow Andrew Wiles' proof of Fermat, math does not magically happen. A headache happens. In other words math is in the mind. It is an intellectual pattern. I don't believe that intellectual patterns can be static. Even memory. Perhaps this is why mathematicians write things down. And what they write down is not math.
knee deep in the hoopla,
TV
David MOREY <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi
Obviously what has been created in mathematics is static
whilst what is in the process of being created has a dynamic aspect.
Also, what mathematics can handle has to be static to be described
mathematically, i.e. inverse square law is a pattern or static as we say in
these parts.
regards
David M
----- Original Message -----
From: joan vollmann
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: MD Pirsig and Rorty the inadequacies of post modernism
David MOREY <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi
I did pick up the irony but wanted you to expand upon it.
I did say static qualities (repeating) dominates mathematics
where as DQ implies contingency/chaos/opennes or creativity,
obviously some maths is looking at chaotic systems.
o.k.
This is interesting to me. When you say mathematics do you mean the body of research and literature, or the active process of doing math? Also, why do you use the term "maths".
bulldoze me with your acumen
TV
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