From: Joe (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Mar 01 2004 - 19:18:06 GMT
On 1 March 2004 8:22 AM Paul writes to Bo:
Paul:
That said, I have made an effort to understand your ideas but (as you
know) believe that they are not as good as Pirsig's MOQ for reasons
stated exhaustively over the past few months. Aside from anything else,
I have a personal appreciation for the contribution of Eastern
philosophy to an understanding of my own experience, and this body of
knowledge is a bit of a "platypus" within your theory - as well as being
central to the MOQ. I also think a lack of clarity in your theory has
weighed against you and I think this has happened because you seem to
have spent more time digging out ambiguities in Pirsig's work to prove
that SOLAQI is "the proper MOQ" than constructing your interpretation
more thoroughly.
joe: in a 'law of evolution' there must be a way to distinguish the levels.
To experience the inorganic level I observe the ground, my toenails and
hair. I use mathematics to describe their properties 'gravity'.
To experience the organic level I observe my hungers, my need for food apart
from what happens to me. I use a language of 'purpose' to distinguish this
level from the gravity of the inorganic, 'gravity with purpose'.
To experience the social level I observe a moral order, a need for order. I
use a language of 'existence' to describe the hierarchy of morals, 'gravity
with purpose, existence'.
To experience the intellectual level I observe the 'law of evolution',
'dq-sq'. To describe dq sq, I use the language of s/o, the quality of law,
'gravity with purpose, existence, quality'.
Bo's description of s/o might be useful to me.
To experience a level of Faith, I observe the sun with its body of atomic
fusion. I use 'existence' to describe the sun. I increase the levels in a
moral order. IMO Faith is an experience of 'existence'. The gravity,
purpose, and quality in creation are sq applied to dq faith in existence by
analogy through s/o. Faith in trust (self-awareness) is beyond me?
Joe
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