From: Valuemetaphysics@aol.com
Date: Tue Apr 06 2004 - 00:51:14 BST
Hello Dan and others,
In this context I want to mention that I notice some biasing in the current
discussions toward personal and cultural views. This to me is confusing
since it takes us away from the basics of MOQ.
Mark 6-4-04: Hello Bart, It may help if you consider two points:
1. You may wish to consider what 'you' are in MoQ terms more carefully?
2. What culture is in MoQ terms more carefully?
With regard to 1 'you' are composed of four static repertoires of patterns
evolving in response to DQ. Culture, (2) is merely the sum total of all these
repertoires. Therefore, tensions in the total repertoire may be viewed from an
evolutionary perspective.
Bart:
If the intellectual level is an evolutionary phase, how come it has not
evolved more and how come that early cultures that had a high degree of
intellect have vanished completely, did these cultures not have enough
quality?
Mark 6-4-04: Evolution in MoQ terms is value evolution, and forms a continuum
which is not limited to Humans. Thus, intellectual patterns of evolution can
survive their initial evolutionary emergence (through literature, etc.).
'Cultures' come and go, but Intellectual and social patterns transcend. It is the
Quality of these patterns which survive.
Bart:
What also still puzzles me is where the personal quality perception should
be placed. I myself regard Norway as having higher quality than The
Netherlands, after having lived there for almost 10 years.
Mark 6-4-04: Your personal repertoire of patterns evolves in a continuum
within which there may be found tensions. The total is all the while evolving in a
relationship with DQ. But your repertoire of patterns IS to some extent
relationally immersed in a web of SQ-SQ tensions.
Bart:
So some expressions of Quality are personally biased and some are culturally
bound, right?
Mark 6-4-04: Culture is not a value level of its own. In MoQ terms it would
be better if you considered the nature of Intellectual and social patterns
instead?
Bart:
How can we overcome this limitation. Dynamic Quality certainly
does not have these limitations I can see that, but where do we go from
there?
Mark 6-4-04: What may at first appear to be a limitation can dissolve within
a broader format? The MoQ provides this broader format:
An answer may be to consider static repertoire. All your intellectual
patterns form a total static repertoire which is evolving in relation to DQ. Your
repertoire is constantly changing and evolving - sometimes assimilating patterns
from literature, people, the internet, etc. - sometimes rearranging the
repertoire in bricolage fashion - maybe at other times being genuinely creative and
developing new patterns.
This same process may be repeated for the other levels also, with diminishing
evolutionary acceleration - the lower levels evolve far more slowly than do
the higher ones.
Bart:
In order to move MOQ forward in the same way as e.g. Einsteins relativity
theory, it has to have universal value and should not be limited by cultural
interpretations or biases, therefore my nagging about culture.
Mark 6-4-04: When the MoQ is assimilated into the sum total of the
intellectual static repertoire and socially approved, then the MoQ will have, in effect,
become what may be said to be the dominant cultural intellectual perspective.
We should avoid using the term 'culture' i feel, as this is better explained
in the MoQ vocabulary by considering the four levels of value evolution.
Regards
Bart
All the best,
and i hope you do not mind my trying to help Bart?
Mark
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