From: Leland Jory (ljory@mts.net)
Date: Thu Apr 22 2004 - 14:13:17 BST
On Apr 21, 2004, at 15:21, Wim Nusselder wrote:
> [Platt] wrote 20 Apr 2004 12:25:02 -0400:
> 'Pirsig attributes Quality (reality) to [consciousness], or at least
> "direct
> experience" which, IMO, presumes consciousness.'
>
> Doesn't Pirsig's hot stove thgought experiment show that consciousness
> follows direct Qualty experience? You react before you are aware.
I see many people put the cart before the horse in this way. I recently
heard a question from a Christian (directed at non-believers) that
basically asked where humanity's "moral sense" comes from if not God.
The implication is that morality would have to be the result of
humanity if not derived from a Creator. My reply is that humanity is
the result of morality, not the other way around.
Try to explain that to them, though. ;^{)>
-- Leland Jory :^{)> Cafeteria Spiritualist and Philosopher "It is a puzzling thing. The truth knocks on the door and you say, 'Go away, I'm looking for the truth.' and so it goes away. Puzzling." - Robert Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archives: Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
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