From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Jan 08 2004 - 01:22:52 GMT
Hey Mark and all,
In response to Mark's request for textual context, I would offer the
following....
PIRSIG (SODV--- discussing his MoQ diagram):
"In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight
hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows
the empirical tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting
point of reality, but -- all importantly -- it includes a
sense of value. Values are phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the
world. It says this sense of value, of liking or disliking,
is a primary sense that is a kind of gatekeeper for everything else an
infant learns. At birth this sense of value is extremely
Dynamic but as the infant grows up this sense of value becomes more and more
influenced by accumulated static patterns. In the past
this biological sense of value has been called the "subjective" because
there values cannot be located in an external physical
object. But quantum theory has destroyed the idea that only properties
located in external physical objects have reality."
R
This quote is typical of a thread that runs throughout out Pirsig's thoughts
in LILA and on the MoQ in general. Pirsig often makes reference to a 'sense
of betterness' (like with the Brujo) or a 'sense of quality' (like with
Lila). Now, I am not qualified to pronounce on whether quantum theory has
destroyed the idea that only properties located in external physical objects
have reality, but my own 'sense of quality' tells me that there is something
weird about the idea presented above. Unfortunately, I'm a little pressed
for time tonight, but on Saturday I will send a post detailing my problems
with the above.
take care
rick
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