From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Mon Dec 06 2004 - 04:25:04 GMT
On 6 Dec 2004 at 1:46, Horse wrote:
On 4 Dec 2004 at 15:51, Erin wrote:
> Although it is exciting to think that maybe contextualism allows a
> structure that MOQers can agree on, a good middle ground (it is
> probably the first label I feel comfortable giving full acceptance
> to---finally know what to call myself hee hee). I wonder if this
> agreement will lead to some consensus in this group or if this will
> be ignored and the relativistic-absolutistic cat and dog fight will
> continue :-) First maybe I should ask, is there anybody that
> disagrees with the contextualist argument?
Having been an advocate of context and moral judgements in the MoQ
pretty much since this list started way back when, I'm glad to see
that it has arisen again.
Could I ask you to be a bit more specific about what you mean by the
'contextualist argument'. An earlyish post of mine gives one
definition of contextualism
(http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/9912/0147.html )
but this may not be what you mean.
msh says:
I think I should point out that, though I believe there is absolute
truth, I do not believe that there is some moral absolute that
applies at all times in all situations. Because some statements are
absolutely true doesn't mean that every question has an absolute
answer.
So I don't see that Erin's comment about the "relativistic-
absolutistic cat and dog fight" has any bearing on my position. In
fact, I don't see that it has any bearing on anyone's position here.
Has anyone suggested that there is an absolute answer, regardless of
context, to every moral question? Pirsig says that it is immoral for
biological static quality patterns to destroy social SQP, and for
social SQP to destroy intellectual SQP, but even this leaves plenty
of room for contextual analysis of what comprises SQP at any level.
So... I guess I don't see the problem. OF COURSE context is
necessary to make moral judgements. Except for religious whackos who
imagine they have a hard-wire connection to the mind of God, who
would claim otherwise?
I guess I'll wait and see what develops from Horse's comments.
Best to all,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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