Date: Mon Mar 07 2005 - 15:31:57 GMT
The original question was:
"In the MOQ feeling corresponds to biological quality." (Pirsig in the
I'd like to suggest we spend a bit of time trying to work out what "feeling" is, as referred to here, whether it's the same as "sensation" or "emotion", and if so, whether this analysis stands up to
scrutiny in the light of contemporary understandings in the philosophy of
mind and neuroscience.
Mark 7-03-05: I am not sure who 'we' are here Sam? Some of us have adopted the Metaphysics of Quality to help categorise experience:
Feeling, sensation and emotion are all patterns of biological quality.
These terms differentiate degrees of sophistication generated by conditioning from social and intellectual patterns.
Contemporary philosophy of mind may benefit from this approach, but i do not feel the Metaphysics of Qualty benefits from a contemporary philosophy of mind approach.
Neuroscience, by definition, is concerned with models of neurophysical patterns, which are biological patterns in MoQ terms.
There seems to be a fair amount of consensus that Pirsig's comment is fine
as long as
a) feeling is distinguished from emotion,
Mark 7-03-05: Feeling and emotion are biological patterns. The distinguishing feature is the degree to which they are conditioned by social and intellectual patterns.
b) and it (Mark - emotion or feeling?) is distinguished from the 'pure experience' or DQ which is how the primary reality is accessed.
Mark 7-03-05: Feeling and emotion are both biological patterns. The distinguishing feature is the degree to which they are conditioned by social and intellectual patterns.
What we have here is a simple distinction between sq and DQ, which makes your second question trivial.
If either of those two points are obscured then we run into difficulties.
Mark 7-03-05: That degree of sophistication is an unexplored area is exciting. That a distinction between sq and DQ is fundamental to the MoQ hardly requires stating in a group such as this i should think?
Or perhaps it does?
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