Re: MF Discussion Topic for March 2005

From: Jaap Karssenberg (
Date: Tue Mar 08 2005 - 08:09:43 GMT

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    On Mon, March 7, 2005 15:54, Sam Norton said:
    > The original question was:
    > "In the MOQ feeling corresponds to biological quality." (Pirsig in the
    > Copleston annotations). I'd like to suggest we spend a bit of time trying
    > to work out what "feeling" is, as referred to here, whether it's the same
    > as "sensation" or "emotion", and if so, whether this analysis stands up to
    > scrutiny in the light of contemporary understandings in the philosophy
    > of mind and neuroscience.
    > There seems to be a fair amount of consensus that Pirsig's comment is
    > fine as long as a) feeling is distinguished from emotion, and b) it is
    > distinguished from the 'pure experience' or DQ which is how the primary
    > reality is accessed. If either of those two points are obscured then we
    > run into difficulties. Does anyone disagree with that?

    I can understand point a), but b) makes me wonder, it seems to suggest that DQ has some kind of primacy over SQ, do you suggest that SQ is disconnected from the "primary reality" ? I certainly wouldn't like to agree to that.

    I didn't find time to actually read most of last months posts (just started a traineeship in a new city), so ignore me if I happen to repeat steps allready taken.

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