>From: RISKYBIZ9@aol.com
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: Re: MD SOCIO-POLITICALISM
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:34:30 EDT
>
>ELLIOT:
>capitalism is a powerful organizing system, my fear is not its weakness but
>it strength in homoginizing individuals to one single perception of Quality
>(efficency). And most (ideally all) problems in the pubilc and private
>buisness sphere become technical problems rather than Qualitative ones.
>
>ROG:
>I certainly agree that markets have their limits and should never be
>expected
>to do much good beyond their narrow range. I think we agree on much.
>
>Rog
Elliot:
And all i really want to know is why you argue for capitalism, and not just
capitalism but also often the current state of capitalism, when you admit it
is not the best. i say: negate that which is failing and that which is
oppressive. Take what you know to be good about capitalism, its strengths,
drop the rest and help formulate something of higher Quality.
I think perhaps you dont yet see to what extent markets subordinate
intellectual Quality. You seem to invision a libertarian civilization where
there are no monopolies, no cold colossal corporations controling products
from mines to check out lines (with workers, not craftsmen, who must
subordinate their spontinaity to the apparatus), no advertisers, and mythos
which spring from artists and visionaries rather than people trying to make
a buck. These things i think are part of the market system, things work
more efficently this way: markets tend towards this type of organization.
But these things can be negated and the strengths behind them preserved in a
different system/mode of production. The alternative to markets isnt only
socialist dictators/beauracracies, there are as many ideas a paintings.
But i did know we were not far in our understandings i think,
Elliot
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