Re: MD What is a living being?

From: Wim Nusselder (
Date: Fri Apr 25 2003 - 07:08:39 BST

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    Dear Phyllis,

    You wrote 24 Apr 2003 20:59:33 -0500:
    'each level seems to be more adaptable then the previous one in terms of
    movement at least. Rock, plant, animal, human.'

    You are right only at this level of not clearly distinguishing between
    'things'/'beings' and patterns of value and of imprecise categorization of

    You seem to be referring mainly to biological evolution: the 'migration of
    biological patterns of value towards DQ', implying more stability, more
    versatility (or adaptability) and more harmony with (a better basis for)
    social patterns of value. Individual plants, animals and humans are no
    biological patterns of value, though. It is a species (or a group of
    comparable species), an ecosystem or a specific set of DNA-codes with
    attendant proteins created and behavior induced (present in different
    species) that most closely refers to what I would call a biological pattern
    of value. In that sense it is imprecise to write that 'some people ... are
    more open to ... DQ' or that 'people change over time to become more open to
    DQ'. All people are elements of the same biological pattern of value: homo
    It is not a difference in level that makes plants, animals and humans
    increasingly adaptable.

    We could also talk about the evolution of social patterns of value (roughly:
    the material cultures that hold together societies) or intellectual patterns
    of value (roughly: sets of ideas). Different people participate to a
    different degree and with different intensity in different social and
    intellectual patterns of value. These social and intellectual patterns of
    value can be more or less adaptable, open to DQ or changing over time.
    That's not the same as saying that individual people are.

    With friendly greetings,


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